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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:40 pm
 


On one side, we have people that scream that terrorism in general, Muslims in particular, are the greatest threats to America... on the other side, we have people that scream that government is getting intrusive in trying to stop it.

I really hope these are not the same people.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:45 pm
 


Only 1252 days left until he stops. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:50 pm
 


raydan raydan:
On one side, we have people that scream that terrorism in general, Muslims in particular, are the greatest threats to America... on the other side, we have people that scream that government is getting intrusive in trying to stop it.

I really hope these are not the same people.


Sadly, they tend to be.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:37 pm
 


raydan raydan:
Only 1252 days left until he stops. :lol:

Unless another democrat gets elected, then he'll have a whole new list of things to complain about. If it's a Republican it will be a bunch of things about how great they are.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:46 pm
 


raydan raydan:
Only 1252 days left until he stops. :lol:


Bush left office on January 20, 2009 and the left still bashes him. So I figure my Obama bashing won't end at least until 2023.

I wouldn't want to discriminate against him by giving him less attention than the white guy got, would I? :P


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:51 pm
 


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Those crazy American conspiracy theorists who live up trees with guns and drink their own pee don’t seem quite so crazy anymore.


I don't care how validated you feel with your convictions; if you drink your own urine, you'll always be at least somewhat crazy to me :lol:


I've done it lots of times. Granted, I used a reverse osmosis filter first so it wasn't all that bad.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:58 pm
 


raydan raydan:
On one side, we have people that scream that terrorism in general, Muslims in particular, are the greatest threats to America... on the other side, we have people that scream that government is getting intrusive in trying to stop it.

I really hope these are not the same people.


The problem is that the people running these operations are doing everything they can to avoid using them against muslim radicals and instead are using them against their political enemies.

We're also not pleased with a government that thinks it has a right to read every email and listen to every phone call in the name of national security.

If I need to trade all of my liberty for that kind of security then at the end of the day I really won't have either security or liberty.

I'd rather not do any of this and risk another terror attack than to have to rip down everything the country stands for in order to protect it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:10 pm
 


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:14 pm
 


My favourite part of the Utah complex:
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Our Target: 256-bit AES
The Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) algorithm is used worldwide to encrypt electronic data on hard drives, email systems, and web browsers. The AES 256-bit encryption key is the standard for top-secret US government communications. Computer experts have estimated it would take longer than the age of the universe to break the code using a trial-and-error brute force attack with today's computing technology.

In 2004, the NSA launched a plan to use the Multiprogram Research Facility in Oak Ridge, Tennessee to build a classified supercomputer designed specifically for cryptanalysis targeting the AES algorithm. Recently, our classified NSA Oak Ridge facility made a stunning breakthrough that is leading us on a path towards building the first exaflop machine (1 quintillion instructions per second) by 2018. This will give us the capability to break the AES encryption key within an actionable time period and allow us to read and process stored encrypted domestic data as well as foreign diplomatic and military communications.

What a waste of money...they want to crack 256 by 2018, and we already have consumer level access to what? 512 bit AES?

So, after all these billions (possibly trillions) are spent, they will only be able to access the stuff of those that have nothing to hide or are too dumb to protect it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:23 pm
 


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Bart, why do you vote?


Because I fought and bled for this system of governance and as much as I bitch and complain I don't want that effort to have been in vain.


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I definitely stand by my statement now, ;)


Some of your CF friends have likely done the same thing. I'm just honest about it.

Edit: The entirety of Orange County, California does the same thing but on a daily basis. I just did it as I needed to.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/10/scien ... d=all&_r=0

And the fact remains that if you're drinking surface water then it stands to reason that a goodly portion of it passed through the kidneys of some bear, deer, or etc. before it got to your glass. Not to mention when you drink lake water you're drinking from a toilet for fish.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:32 pm
 


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Plus our concept of water is probably just dinasuar piss anyhow


Yep. That's a certainty.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:17 pm
 


It gets better!

US intelligence agencies are mining data directly!

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The National Security Agency and the FBI are tapping directly into the central servers of nine leading U.S. Internet companies, extracting audio and video chats, photographs, e-mails, documents, and connection logs that enable analysts to track one target or trace a whole network of associates, according to a top-secret document obtained by The Washington Post.

The program, code-named PRISM, has not been made public until now. It may be the first of its kind. The NSA prides itself on stealing secrets and breaking codes, and it is accustomed to corporate partnerships that help it divert data traffic or sidestep barriers. But there has never been a Google or Facebook before, and it is unlikely that there are richer troves of valuable intelligence than the ones in Silicon Valley.

Equally unusual is the way the NSA extracts what it wants, according to the document: “Collection directly from the servers of these U.S. Service Providers: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.”



http://www.washingtonpost.com/investiga ... ml?hpid=z1


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