[OnTheIce]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Are we going to have another 10 page circle-jerk where non of you change your opinion and argue about the same shit you have over the last 5 years non-stop?

Yes, and in the spirit of childishness in which it began, "They started it".

But be honest...you knew this before you clicked the link, didn't you?

Not to worry. Just sit back and stay frosty. Here ya go...

It's hilarious.

Reminds me of this:

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Here's a physicist discussing the Satellite temps for 2014 from RSS AMSU -

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RSS AMSU have published their December 2014 values. The global mean temperature anomaly was +0.284 °C, just 0.04 °C warmer than the value in November which increases the annual average estimate just by +0.0035 °C relatively to my previous expectations – a negligible figure. With this tiny correction, 2014 is pretty much tied with 2007 as the 6th-7th warmest year in the RSS AMSU dataset, after 1998, 2010, 2005, 2003, and 2002.

RSS claims that 2014 was a whopping 0.3 °C cooler than 1998. Please laugh out loud when someone will be telling you that it was the warmest year.

http://motls.blogspot.ca/2015/01/rss-am ... ouped.html

Here's one of the scientists responsible for the satellite temps from UAH.

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2014 was Third Warmest Year Since 1979, but Just Barely...


2014 was the third warmest year in the 36-year global satellite temperature record, but by such a small margin (0.01 C) as to be statistically similar to other recent years, according to Dr. John Christy, a professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville. “2014 was warm, but not special. The 0.01 C difference between 2014 and 2005, or the 0.02 difference with 2013 are not statistically different from zero. That might not be a very satisfying conclusion, but it is at least accurate.”

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2015/01/uah ... -32-deg-c/

Curious how CBC didn't think you needed to know that.

Here's one from Bob Tisdale. I don't know what his credentials are. He's always writing about ocean temps every time I see him.

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Today, two of the world’s climate-industry giants—the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) and the NOAA National Climatic Data Center (NCDC)—posted their much-anticipated annual results for 2014. According to GISS, global surface temperature anomalies were an astounding +0.02 deg C higher in 2014 than they were in 2010, making the 2014 results the highest in the history of GISS. These record-breaking results from GISS are under the guidance of their new Deputy Director, Gavin Schmidt. If you’re not familiar with numbers that remarkable, they’re read two one-hundredth of a deg C, which is equal to less than four one-hundredths of a deg F. According to the NCDC, their global surface temperature results were +0.04 deg C higher in 2014 than they were in 2005 and 2010, their two previous best years. The warmest years are within the margin of uncertainty for the data*, making it impossible to determine which year was actually warmest. Even so, these results bring new hope to global warming investors, who have had to endure disappointing results in recent decades. GISS and NCDC are once again showing why the CO2 obsessed turn to them for global warming data. GISS and NCDC are global-warming industry leaders…known for eking out record years from poor source data, even during these hard times of global warming slowdown.

https://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2015/0 ... #more-8619

It is just a blog I realize but really?

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The Reference Frame
Our stringy Universe from a conservative viewpoint

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Not interested in another argument , but wouldn't "from a scientific viewpoint" at least appear to be more useful.

[N_Fiddledog]

OH, I see Fifey, you would rather discuss personalities.

No problem...I see CBC went out of their way to find hockey stick hoaxster, hide the decline, Mann of the upside down graph, Michael Mann, for a comment.

Remember this?

[Regina]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Here's one from Bob Tisdale. I don't know what his credentials are. He's always writing about ocean temps every time I see him.

Look at you all "science'd" up.

[stratos]

well you have all slowed down over the years. Usually this thread would be 5-7 pages long by now.

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

OH, I see Fifey, you would rather discuss personalities.

No problem...I see CBC went out of their way to find hockey stick hoaxster, hide the decline, Mann of the upside down graph, Michael Mann, for a comment.

Remember this?

No I don't remember this. And I don't want to discuss personalities at all (nor physics). It just seems odd that a blog about physics would be subtitled "Our stringy Universe from a conservative viewpoint." Lends one the thought that it "may" be a tad lopsided.

[N_Fiddledog]

Regina Regina:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Here's one from Bob Tisdale. I don't know what his credentials are. He's always writing about ocean temps every time I see him.

Look at you all "science'd" up.

Isn't it cute the way we're now required to ignore the 2 scientists I posted to discuss the one who's credentials I don't know, but had a piercing comment.

Fifey wants to tell us now how a physicist can't be trusted to understand scientific data on the grounds he's a conservative.


Very well...

Have you ever seen that strutting, little rooster, who's running NASA GISS now debate?

Gavin Scmidt - you know the guy responsible for the bulk of the claim in the CBC article? He's a computer modeler. I saw him perform in the IQ2 debate about 7 years ago. He hasn't done another debate since that I'm aware of. Figures... He looked ridiculous. I can show you a video of him running from debating Professor Spencer if you like. The Professor is one of the guys responsible for the UAH satellite temps./

[ShepherdsDog]

Hottest year ever?? Lucky bastards, because it sure as hell wasn't that warm here.....snow in June and in early September.

[Regina]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Isn't it cute the way we're now required to ignore the 2 scientists I posted to discuss the one who's credentials I don't know, but had a piercing comment.

Fifey wants to tell us now how a physicist can't be trusted to understand scientific data on the grounds he's a conservative.


Very well...

Have you ever seen that strutting, little rooster, who's running NASA GISS now debate?

Gavin Scmidt - you know the guy responsible for the bulk of the claim in the CBC article? He's a computer modeler. I saw him perform in the IQ2 debate about 7 years ago. He hasn't done another debate since that I'm aware of. Figures... He looked ridiculous. I can show you a video of him running from debating Professor Spencer if you like. The Professor is one of the guys responsible for the UAH satellite temps./

I didn't trot anybody out at all, you did.......then admitted that you have no clue what makes him an expert. Why not just say: Them, there guys over there said......

[BartSimpson]

My favorite quote in response to this 'news':

Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry:

'With 2014 essentially tied with 2005 and 2010 for hottest year, this implies that there has been essentially no trend in warming over the past decade.'

[Regina]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Hottest year ever?? Lucky bastards, because it sure as hell wasn't that warm here.....snow in June and in early September.

Not warm last year at all here either, but we did set the warmest month on record for December here. Much milder here this winter so far. Last year was just nasty.
Because of geography Canada as a whole would survive dramatic warming much better than our southern neighbours who may find out it's too late when chicken lay hard boiled eggs ready to eat. So for completely selfish reasons......bring it on.

[Regina]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

My favorite quote in response to this 'news':

Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry Climatologist Dr. Judith Curry:

'With 2014 essentially tied with 2005 and 2010 for hottest year, this implies that there has been essentially no trend in warming over the past decade.'

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Texas A&M University climate scientist Andrew Dessler and other experts said the latest statistics should end claims by non-scientists that warming has stopped.

This was my fav.

[N_Fiddledog]

Regina Regina:

I didn't trot anybody out at all, you did.......then admitted that you have no clue what makes him an expert. Why not just say: Them, there guys over there said......

No, I gave you two scientists. Bart just gave you a third. I also gave you a guy who writes on the subject whose credentials I don't know.

Very well, if credentials matter, CBC's hero who's pushing this "warmest year" thing (cause with all his data massaging he's able to get it a few hundredths of a degree warmer than last year) is little more than a computer guy. Most likely he couldn't get a job with Nintendo, so he landed in the climate biz.

And Dessler is wrong. The climate pause still stands, even with the computer boob's hundredth's of a degree rise.

[stratos]

So between 2005-2010 it was cooler. and here again in 2015 it got hotter. My thinking is what about those years we did not set record highs did we cool off some? If so how? Why is it not each year we get a little bit warmer. If Global warming is really happening then shouldn't it be a steady rise in temp?

[ShepherdsDog]

Regina Regina:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Hottest year ever?? Lucky bastards, because it sure as hell wasn't that warm here.....snow in June and in early September.

Not warm last year at all here either, but we did set the warmest month on record for December here. Much milder here this winter so far. Last year was just nasty.
Because of geography Canada as a whole would survive dramatic warming much better than our southern neighbours who may find out it's too late when chicken lay hard boiled eggs ready to eat. So for completely selfish reasons......bring it on.

I'll take a 20°C increase, screw that measly 2 or 3 degree increase. 5 in the summer and 15 in the winter.....actually screw it, I'll take a whole 20°C in the winter. That would make it +3°C now.