[andyt]

BRAH BRAH:

Lemmy Lemmy:

You did, did you?

You proved one thing, the same thing you prove every time you click "submit": that you're an idiot.

How else do you think young Muslims such as in Calgary are finding their way to to Syria to fight for ISIS? The Terrorists in Brussels, Paris, the Boston bombers. They're recruited through online radicalization a war the West is losing submit that you blind idiot.

So because a few Muslims are being radicalized online, while the majority support Canada, that means we're losing the war?


Meanwhile:

$1:

Number of foreign fighters entering Iraq and Syria drops by 90 percent, Pentagon says

The flow of foreign fighters into Iraq and Syria has dropped from roughly 2,000 a month down to 200 within the past year, according to the Pentagon, which says the waning numbers are further proof of the Islamic State’s declining stature.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/che ... agon-says/

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Those guys from Calgary weren't recruited online.

That's not something that can proved or disproved. Just saying.

[BRAH]

andyt andyt:

BRAH BRAH:

Lemmy Lemmy:

You did, did you?

You proved one thing, the same thing you prove every time you click "submit": that you're an idiot.

How else do you think young Muslims such as in Calgary are finding their way to to Syria to fight for ISIS? The Terrorists in Brussels, Paris, the Boston bombers. They're recruited through online radicalization a war the West is losing submit that you blind idiot.

So because a few Muslims are being radicalized online, while the majority support Canada, that means we're losing the war?


Meanwhile:

$1:

Number of foreign fighters entering Iraq and Syria drops by 90 percent, Pentagon says

The flow of foreign fighters into Iraq and Syria has dropped from roughly 2,000 a month down to 200 within the past year, according to the Pentagon, which says the waning numbers are further proof of the Islamic State’s declining stature.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/che ... agon-says/

A few Muslims? Try a higher number like in the thousands who are radicalized online every day by ISIS propaganda, slick videos, etc. The Pentagon numbers are hard to believe since in the past stats have been adjusted for optics.

[andyt]

BRAH BRAH:

A few Muslims? Try a higher number like in the thousands who are radicalized online every day by ISIS propaganda, slick videos, etc. The Pentagon numbers are hard to believe since in the past stats have been adjusted for optics.

Thousands every day? Wow. So maybe 1/2 a million plus a year? And yet foreign fighters going to the ME are down 90%. They're all waiting while they save up their Aeroplan miles?

Ok, you've made the claim. 1000s every day. Now prove it.

Probably time for you to retreat back to Islam is as Islam does.

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

Lemmy Lemmy:

You did, did you?

You proved one thing, the same thing you prove every time you click "submit": that you're an idiot.

How else do you think young Muslims such as in Calgary are finding their way to to Syria to fight for ISIS? The Terrorists in Brussels, Paris, the Boston bombers. They're recruited through online radicalization a war the West is losing submit that you blind idiot.

Those guys from Calgary weren't recruited online.

You're right, they were recruited in the local Calgary mosque.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Those guys from Calgary weren't recruited online.

That's not something that can proved or disproved. Just saying.

martin14 martin14:

You're right, they were recruited in the local Calgary mosque.

From what I've read, a bunch of people who lived in an apartment building started a prayer group in the building, recruited locals into it, and they were radicalized from there.

That was gleaned from online conversations one of the now deceased Jihadis posted. Nothing is for sure though.

The local Calgary Mosque probably would have turned them in.

$1:

The Muslim Council of Calgary (MCC) is also calling for action against radicalization.

The council released a statement today saying the radicalization of Muslim youth is an international issue.

"We have always made it clear to our community that radical ideologies that attempt to justify murder and suicide bombings are incompatible with the teachings of Islam," said Imam​ Fayaz Tilly.

"Despite the MCC's efforts at delivering this message to our community, it is clear that more needs to be done to prevent instances of radicalization from seeping into our community,"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/d ... -1.2666173

[BRAH]

andyt andyt:

BRAH BRAH:

A few Muslims? Try a higher number like in the thousands who are radicalized online every day by ISIS propaganda, slick videos, etc. The Pentagon numbers are hard to believe since in the past stats have been adjusted for optics.

Thousands every day? Wow. So maybe 1/2 a million plus a year? And yet foreign fighters going to the ME are down 90%. They're all waiting while they save up their Aeroplan miles?

Ok, you've made the claim. 1000s every day. Now prove it.

Probably time for you to retreat back to Islam is as Islam does.

Why ISIS Is Winning the Social Media War

http://www.wired.com/2016/03/isis-winning-social-media-war-heres-beat/
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Don't underestimate the power of social media.

[andyt]

Ok, so where does it say 1000s/day? Why is foreigners going to the ME to fight down 90%? What does winning the social media war mean? It seems ISIS is losing the real war. Can't afford to pay their fighters as much, have moved lieutenants to Libya because their hold in Syria/Iraq is increasingly tenuous. Good chance that ISIS will become just another terror organization that doesn't actually hold any land for their "caliphate." Still dangerous, will still cause trouble, but recent events seem to indicate they are on the wane as far as being a pseudo-state is concerned.

[BRAH]

Through social media and other online tools ISIS is radicalizing thousands a day encouraging them to commit Jihad on the battle field or at home, this is a War the West is losing.

[andyt]

Please provide a credible link that says ISIS is radicalizing 1000s a day. Where are they, they're certainly no committing Jihad at home, (small groups usually less than 10, not thousands, and certainly not the million that would come from radicalizing 1000s a day.) they're not going to the ME anymore. Or just keep repeating your mantras, if that makes you feel better.

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

From what I've read, a bunch of people who lived in an apartment building started a prayer group in the building, recruited locals into it, and they were radicalized from there.

That was gleaned from online conversations one of the now deceased Jihadis posted. Nothing is for sure though.

I guess the people in that building weren't part of the 600 who were interviewed.

1 million muslims in Canada, and they post results from 600.


And we are supposed to take these results seriously ?

[BRAH]

andyt andyt:

Please provide a credible link that says ISIS is radicalizing 1000s a day. Where are they, they're certainly no committing Jihad at home, (small groups usually less than 10, not thousands, and certainly not the million that would come from radicalizing 1000s a day.) they're not going to the ME anymore. Or just keep repeating your mantras, if that makes you feel better.

ISIS Has Radicalized Thousands In The US!

http://www.yesimright.com/report-isis-has-radicalized-thousands-in-the-u-s-obama-is-silent/


Islamic State Radicalizes ‘Thousands’ in United States

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/islamic-state-radicalizes-thousands-in-united-states/
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This is just in the United States. You obviously don't understand the power social media and the internet has in radicalizing wannabe Jihadists who might act or might not act.

If it's not on a news article or on CNN thousands around the World are not being radicalized a day? You think the Middle East is the only front ISIS will have?

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

From what I've read, a bunch of people who lived in an apartment building started a prayer group in the building, recruited locals into it, and they were radicalized from there.

That was gleaned from online conversations one of the now deceased Jihadis posted. Nothing is for sure though.

I guess the people in that building weren't part of the 600 who were interviewed.

1 million muslims in Canada, and they post results from 600.

And we are supposed to take these results seriously ?

1200 people is considered a representative sample from Canada's 34 million. 600 from 1 million is even larger representative sample. That would give you a margin of error of +/-4% for that population. I'd say they were accurate.

[N_Fiddledog]

So...

Environics did this poll did they?

And none of you guys nodding your heads with smug smiles and dead eyes on your faces are curious who they are, right?

Too bad. I'm going to tell you the little bit I know anyway.

I recognized their name from a survey they did for Suzuki. Turns out what Canadians really want is to give up freedom and treasure to adjust the global temperature. Apparently we can do that.

So Suzuki gets Environics to do a a poll and it turns out all of Canada thinks just like he does. Who would have guessed?

But I wonder if we can discover a pattern here. I know. Let's look at who wanted this Muslim poll done. Feel free to click and have a quick look around.

http://tessellateinstitute.com/whoweare/

http://www.olivetreefoundation.ca/our-team/

Did you know Environics is a non-profit? I wonder where the money comes from then.

Here's another interesting partner.

https://www.inspiritfoundation.org/en/about/team

Now when I clicked that and scrolled down, one face looked immediately familiar - Barbara Hall. Wasn't she the NDP mayor of Toronto or something? Isn't it curious how after such people retire from office they know how to sniff out where the free money is?

Now concerning those questions they were asking and the ones CBC was highlighting, I'd like to suggest some different ones I'd like to hear asked in a new poll.

There's the ever popular "Sharia - yes or no," of course.

Or I know. Try asking this guy's questions the way he's asking them. I'm sure the CBC is going to rush to get us the results of that one.



And hey CBC those are some cute Muslimas you're finding for your photos. Some of us have been to a mall though. We can't find them. We want to go where you shop.

But thanks for another photo of PM selfie for the collection, CBC. That never gets old, right?

[DrCaleb]

Did you ever notice F_D, the first thing you often do in a thread is post ad hominems?