[BartSimpson]

fifeboy fifeboy:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

They're helping to elect a Republican super-majority to Congress in 2020 and they're doing their part to help Republicans gain political control of more Democrat states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Missouri.

They're also getting a head start on re-electing President Trump in 2020.

Won't that depend more on Trump actually doing a good job?

Both. I expect Trump to do as President what he's done for the past forty years as a private citizen. And that will be good news for the economy and more people will have access to better paying jobs and we'll see a reversal of the trend towards greater poverty as we've seen since 2008.

And as these people protest the man when the public sees more money in their pockets they'll help to re-elect him just the same as the anti-Reagan protests in 1984 helped to re-elect Reagan and by a greater margin than he was elected with in the 1980.

[Lemmy]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Why is it that Democrats/Liberals/Snowflakes don't understand the basic concept of democracy?

When a majority of people make a choice, just because it isn't the one you want doesn't mean you keep getting fucking do overs till you finally get your way. This isn't grade school and Democracy, like it or not isn't supposed to cater to the people who whine the loudest.

And yet, what have the Republicans done over the last decade? Demanding Supermajorities with the threat of filibuster if they didn't get their way. How short your memory is.

And you're taking a pretty simplified view of democracy. Democracy in the 21st century isn't just rule by majority. We protect minority rights. That's why we have things like our Charter and the Yanks have their Bill of Rights. 50% + 1 doesn't get to vote for things that violate others' rights. The tyranny of the majority is never a good thing and if Trump attempts to follow through on even a small percentage of his loony aspirations, he'll find that out right-quick.

[Strutz]

I find it ironic that 45% of eligible voters did not bother. In conversations I've had with several people I predicted that voter turnout would be worse than last time around and everyone said I was wrong and that it would be higher than ever to stop that "crazy Trump" from becoming POTUS.

Uh huh.

Perhaps that 45% figured the same, that everyone else would look after it and besides they had other things to do or something. Who knows how different it might have been had more people taken advantage of the privilege and RIGHT to cast a ballot.

As far as these protests go... fine, march, shout and wave your signs and get it out of your system. Trump will be moving into the White House in January anyway. Accept it.

But for f*cks sake stop burning stuff in the streets, vandalizing private property and blocking traffic. You're putting others is danger and preventing them from enjoying their freedoms.

[Strutz]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

^Ahahahahahaha they don't care. He can lie and break all his promises. Its the idea of Trump that tides them over.

It's not the man, it's the ideology.

What's funnier is you change the word 'Trump' with 'Obama' in this thread, and suddenly it's 2008 again.

Good point. Combine their mantras...

"Yes we can" "make America great again"

[herbie]

$1:

Perhaps that 45% figured the same, that everyone else would look after it and besides they had other things to do or something. Who knows how different it might have been had more people taken advantage of the privilege and RIGHT to cast a ballot.

Yes, for those who refused to make a choice, it was made for you. Live with it.

[Thanos]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

fifeboy fifeboy:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

They're helping to elect a Republican super-majority to Congress in 2020 and they're doing their part to help Republicans gain political control of more Democrat states like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Missouri.

They're also getting a head start on re-electing President Trump in 2020.

Won't that depend more on Trump actually doing a good job?

Both. I expect Trump to do as President what he's done for the past forty years as a private citizen. And that will be good news for the economy and more people will have access to better paying jobs and we'll see a reversal of the trend towards greater poverty as we've seen since 2008.

And as these people protest the man when the public sees more money in their pockets they'll help to re-elect him just the same as the anti-Reagan protests in 1984 helped to re-elect Reagan and by a greater margin than he was elected with in the 1980.

What happens two or three years from now when the guys in Ohio or Wisconsin finally figure out that Trump isn't bringing back the steel mill jobs they lost back under Reagan when 90% of the overall industry in North America was shut down?

[andyt]

They may never do that, America ain't the brightest bulb in the chandelier. And since this was a race vote, they'll probably keep on voting right.

[Strutz]

herbie herbie:

$1:

Perhaps that 45% figured the same, that everyone else would look after it and besides they had other things to do or something. Who knows how different it might have been had more people taken advantage of the privilege and RIGHT to cast a ballot.

Yes, for those who refused to make a choice, it was made for you. Live with it.

Exactly.

Our federal and provincial elections have the same problem. Too many people who don't bother to participate.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

They may never do that, America ain't the brightest bulb in the chandelier. And since this was a race vote, they'll probably keep on voting right.

Give the racism shit a rest, eh? Anymore it's akin to a Godwin in that it's been overused so much and abused so much that it's losing its impact.

[Lemmy]

Strutz Strutz:

herbie herbie:

Yes, for those who refused to make a choice, it was made for you. Live with it.

Exactly.

Our federal and provincial elections have the same problem. Too many people who don't bother to participate.

The bigger question is "why?" Why don't people bother? I suspect that Trump's election is a factor of that. People are so sick of government intrusion in their lives that they've gone groundhog on everything political. I also suspect that if those who didn't vote had, Trump's victory would have been much larger. It's definitely a wake-up call that the bulging bureaucracies and debt, and the erosion of individual freedoms that come at their expense, need to be rethought.

[N_Fiddledog]

$1:

Thousands of angry anti-Donald Trump protesters chanting "not my president" blocked the entrance to his home at Trump Tower before marching through the streets.

The iconic skycraper in New York City was surrounded by nearly 8,000 angry demonstrators - including pop stars Madonna and Cher - following the tycoon's shock election victory.

They chanted slogans of "No Trump! No KKK! No racist USA!" outside the Fifth Avenue tower in New York, home of the Trump Organisation and the penthouse apartment where the President-elect lives.

Oh well, at least they didn't do too much vandalism, like our Vancouver snowflakes did that year we didn't win the hockey championship.

[Public_Domain]

[N_Fiddledog]

Man has meltdown on NYC subway over Trump winning

[martin14]

Lemmy Lemmy:

Strutz Strutz:

herbie herbie:

Yes, for those who refused to make a choice, it was made for you. Live with it.

Exactly.

Our federal and provincial elections have the same problem. Too many people who don't bother to participate.

The bigger question is "why?" Why don't people bother? I suspect that Trump's election is a factor of that. People are so sick of government intrusion in their lives that they've gone groundhog on everything political. I also suspect that if those who didn't vote had, Trump's victory would have been much larger. It's definitely a wake-up call that the bulging bureaucracies and debt, and the erosion of individual freedoms that come at their expense, need to be rethought.

Don't you have some money to pay out ?

[Freakinoldguy]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Why is it that Democrats/Liberals/Snowflakes don't understand the basic concept of democracy?

When a majority of people make a choice, just because it isn't the one you want doesn't mean you keep getting fucking do overs till you finally get your way. This isn't grade school and Democracy, like it or not isn't supposed to cater to the people who whine the loudest.

Fact is, Trump didn't get a majority - he actually got fewer votes than Clinton did (each got about 26% of the vote). And neither of them can claim the 45% of Americans who didn't vote at all.

My question for these protesters would be, "Did you vote?"

If the answer is no, then they are to blame, not Trump.

If the answer is yes, then they did their part.

Clinton (and the Democrats) shares part of the blame, because if they could have energized even a small portion of the 45% of non-voters, she would have won.

The same questions could be asked up here when you think about it.

Apathetic people who can't be bothered to vote but march, riot and protest the results of the people who do vote are nothing more than self indulgent assholes who, by abusing their democratic right of choosing a leader continue to show the dark side of democracy.