[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

I actually didn't think you guys would enjoy our wines. Although, I do really like a few BC wines, somehow I didn't think you would, given the quality of some California ones.

Oh, no! I thoroughly enjoy BC wines!

They're far better than a Napa Cabernet at stripping old paint!

[raydan]

US wines are crap anyways, just like their beer.

[BartSimpson]

raydan raydan:

US wines are crap anyways, just like their beer.

A lot of our wine >> IS << crap and I piss better beer than most of the shit that gets passed off as 'beer' down here.

But...

There are some amazing vineyards like Bogle, Heringer, and Scribner around here.

Plus Northern California is home to some incredible dark beers.

Come visit sometime and I'd be happy to show you some of them!

[raydan]

We get some good USA wines here, nice selection too... 582 of them at last count.

https://www.saq.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s ... reId=20002

...and I've had quite a few good craft beers from down south.

[BartSimpson]

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

There are some amazing vineyards like Bogle, Heringer, and Scribner around here.

Plus Northern California is home to some incredible dark beers.

Come visit sometime and I'd be happy to show you some of them!

I actually have a friend that I grew up with who now owns a winery in California.

And there are a few BC and Ontario wines that are pretty good. I'll send you some, if you like.

Along with some of our cheap but good Alberta whisky.

http://www.graymonk.com/index.php/our-w ... sauvignon/

http://www.graymonk.com/index.php/our-w ... iegerrebe/

http://www.nkmipcellars.com/product/NkM ... kers-Talon

[herbie]

Oh FFS since Day One provincial liquor stores displayed local wines ahead of any other. They taxed out of province wines more than local. They did this to promote a local wine industry.
Now people snivel and whine like that's a bad thing.
Would you prefer we still had BabyDuck and Calona in 1/2 gallon jugs and the Okanagan was still sagebrush and station wagon tenting among the orchards and earwigs?

The ONLY reason the Libs allowed wine sales in some supermarkets was public pressure to modernize, the "BC wines only" was a remnant of past promotion and the fact their biggest bagmen were wineries and Pattison's SaveOn foods chain.
The private sector didn't do it's job promoting local wines at all. Go into one and look, there's a case of the biggest sellers. As to be expected when revenue is the motivation. The grocery stores have a only a few aisles, they'd so exactly the same with even less selection.
Yeah the easiest way to comply with this trade dispute would be to get rid of the few existing ones.

And yeas, I've been down the Pacific Coast many times. Beer sales in gas stations, drive thru liquor stores and premixed drinks in vending machines ain't something to brag about. Having a beer on the beach is one thing, tying drinking to driving convenience is disgusting.

[Strutz]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

A lot of our wine >> IS << crap and I piss better beer than most of the shit that gets passed off as 'beer' down here.

But...

There are some amazing vineyards like Bogle, Heringer, and Scribner around here.

Plus Northern California is home to some incredible dark beers.

Come visit sometime and I'd be happy to show you some of them!

Californian wines are actually quite popular and sell well up here. J Lohr, Woodbridge, Gallo (their Apothic line especially) and Barefoot are among the best known from what I've seen in my experience. I have a few favorites but there are many more I haven't tried yet but will.

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I can't say offhand if I've tried any Californian beers but I'd love to!

[herbie]

Yep we love to mock American beer but we've flocked to the brand names of all the worst goddam ones up here...
they make some damn good beers down there, and our wines catching up to California. There's some damn good BC wines but the average consumer would still still rather drink cheap swill.

[Freakinoldguy]

herbie herbie:

Yep we love to mock American beer but we've flocked to the brand names of all the worst goddam ones up here...
they make some damn good beers down there, and our wines catching up to California. There's some damn good BC wines but the average consumer would still still rather drink cheap swill.

What's wrong with drinking, Bali Hai, Thunderbird, Mogen David or Four Aces wine? Remember, even cheap wines need love.

[herbie]

Had a friend from Compton visit once years ago. The clerk in the LCB was trying to figure out what "Mogen David" was...
back then the wine selection was pretty bad up here. 50% of the shelf was "Green" what the drunks on the rez called a Calona. They bought it for the flared top, you could catch it if it slipped out of your grip drinking out in the parking lot...

Grape Jack... gf's 1972 grad party on Burnaby Mtn... 50 lot of acid dissolved in the gallon jug...

[Coach85]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

More on this:

https://www.biv.com/article/2017/3/bc-n ... e-shelves/

$1:

No grocery store in the province is allowed to carry international wines on store shelves because that is against B.C. law.

Oh, well since that's the case then BC asked for an ass-kicking in the WTO.

Enjoy.

Another troubling point the article brought up is the fact that The Real Canadian Superstore is being allowed to sell wine and beer. It's troubling because, when the gov't first came out with this policy they were adamant that "big box stores" weren't going to be given licences for this type of alcohol sales since it was to help out the small grocery stores.

$1:

B.C. grocers who want to have store-within-a store liquor sales must be a minimum of 10,000 square feet and maintain 75 per cent of their sales in food products, the provincial justice ministry has announced.

But “big box” retailers such as Walmart, which sell substantial amounts of groceries, will not be allowed to sell liquor on the grocery-store model or in any fashion, at least for now.

http://www.vancouversun.com/takes+next+ ... story.html

I guess Superstore isn't big box, shrank in square footage and doesn't sell nearly as many groceries as we thought . But here's another question. If that big box chain can sell wine and beer why can't Walmart Canada who sell alot less groceries than Superstore or Costco both with American parent companies?




Here's a powerpoint presentation about who the big dogs in the food sales industry are and guess what. It's Superstore with a 30% market share while Walmart is at a paltry 7% while the square footage size of a Superstore is 140,000 to 210,000 square feet. A little more than the 10K the gov't was talking about.

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/manufact ... erview.pdf

So kiddies, can anyone explain what the term "protectionism" means?

Small grocery stores? Not sure where you live but in the GTA, those are hard to come by.