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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:00 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: So now the question becomes. What excuses for not reporting these sinister actions do the Hollywood elites use when trying to explain away Mr. Spacey especially since they've already used up their quota of standard ones on Mr. Weinstein? Great actor, stars in successful money-makers, has lots of friends, and (most of all) really didn't behave all that much outside the moral standards of the industry he works in. Seriously, for every Weinstein/Spacey/Toback that's been exposed there's probably at least a dozen others that still haven't been. And won't be either. 
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:01 pm
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: Anybody who tells you that Hollywood and the social justice warriors that live there didn't know about the animals like Kevin Spacey and Harvey Weinstein years ago are fucking liars.
If this cartoon is any indication Seth MacFarlane and probably everybody else in Hollwood knew about Mr. Spacey's predilections over a decade ago, 2005 to be exact.
So now the question becomes. What excuses for not reporting these sinister actions do the Hollywood elites use when trying to explain away Mr. Spacey especially since they've already used up their quota of standard ones on Mr. Weinstein? Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Merly Streep, Quentin Tarantino etc knew and turned a blindeye because their careers were more important. It seems the only ones who spoke out were Seth McFarlane and Courtney Love while the rest stayed quiet until it was time to jump on the outrage bandwagon.
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:07 pm
Be interesting to see how Marvel reacts if Bryan Singer gets taken down for his twink parties, which Kevin Spacey was a regular attendee at, because without his work on the X-Men there might not be a Marvel Cinematic Universe today. His success with the first X-film kicked off the entire multi-billion dollar modern superhero phenomenon and rescued a comic book industry that was stuck in a really bad recession in the lat 90's/early 00's. 
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:32 pm
And there’s the rub. Like the wise men in the Wu Tang Clan said: cash rules everything. Weinstein got away with being a sex pest because he made lots of money. Same with all the others. It’s all about money.
And it’s sad that morality takes a back seat to money but it’s not the first time nor will it be the last and nor is it a problem confined to Hollywood.
Hopefully, now things are changing that all of the stories that have been kept quiet or brushed off as rumour are brought into the light and things change and the sick fucks who use their positions to get their rocks off and insulate themselves from the consequences that would befall us plebes are brought to heel and the culture changes. I’m not too hopeful, but things already have changed a little.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:07 am
xerxes xerxes: And there’s the rub. Like the wise men in the Wu Tang Clan said: cash rules everything. Weinstein got away with being a sex pest because he made lots of money. Same with all the others. It’s all about money.
And it’s sad that morality takes a back seat to money but it’s not the first time nor will it be the last and nor is it a problem confined to Hollywood.
Hopefully, now things are changing that all of the stories that have been kept quiet or brushed off as rumour are brought into the light and things change and the sick fucks who use their positions to get their rocks off and insulate themselves from the consequences that would befall us plebes are brought to heel and the culture changes. I’m not too hopeful, but things already have changed a little. All these assholes should be standing shoulder to shoulder with Bill Cosby because the only difference between him and them is that he got caught first. Unfortunately you're probably right. All of these perverts will be replaced by other depraved assholes who, will do the same or worse while their elitist victims continue to publicly vilify anyone who doesn't agree with their self righteous opinions and beliefs all the while ignoring the fact that they either gave up their bodies to these predators in the hopes of making vast amounts of money and fame or, remained silent while watching the carnage continue in the hopes of getting the same rewards.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:09 am
Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: All these assholes should be standing shoulder to shoulder with Bill Cosby because the only difference between him and them is that he got caught first. Cosby and Spacey also have another connection. I've always believed that diminished capacity pays a part in peoples actions, although it's not an excuse. If Spacey is responsible for his actions in attacking a young Anthony Rapp while drunk, then Cosby's victims are also willing participants after they'd been roofied.  Just say'in, we can't have double standards just because Spacy is a man. I think Spacey is the first person to 'come out' and have people react angrily. 
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:47 am
Thanos Thanos: Be interesting to see how Marvel reacts if Bryan Singer gets taken down for his twink parties, which Kevin Spacey was a regular attendee at, because without his work on the X-Men there might not be a Marvel Cinematic Universe today. His success with the first X-film kicked off the entire multi-billion dollar modern superhero phenomenon and rescued a comic book industry that was stuck in a really bad recession in the lat 90's/early 00's.  Bryan Singer Sex Abuse Case: The Troubling History Behind the Accusations$1: The wild parties were hardly a secret. During the mid- to late 1990s, as the Internet bubble was inflating, a wide swath of gay Hollywood flocked to the 12,616-square-foot Encino mansion that 40-something Marc Collins-Rector shared with Chad Shackley, a Michigan man in his mid-20s who had lived with Collins-Rector since dropping out of high school at 16; and Brock Pierce, a teenage actor who had appeared in Disney's The Mighty Ducks movies. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bryan-singer-sex-abuse-case-699828_________________________ Before Days of Future Past was released this story broke and there was damage control from the studio and after he was still able to direct Apocalypse. DrCaleb DrCaleb: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: All these assholes should be standing shoulder to shoulder with Bill Cosby because the only difference between him and them is that he got caught first. Cosby and Spacey also have another connection. I've always believed that diminished capacity pays a part in peoples actions, although it's not an excuse. If Spacey is responsible for his actions in attacking a young Anthony Rapp while drunk, then Cosby's victims are also willing participants after they'd been roofied.  Just say'in, we can't have double standards just because Spacy is a man. I think Spacey is the first person to 'come out' and have people react angrily.  Kevin Spacey Claims Will Likely Impact Sony's 'All the Money in the World' Promo Plans$1: The actor's decision to come out as gay in a sexual assault apology statement has prompted a fierce backlash, making it difficult for him to promote his upcoming film. When Bryan Singer was accused of alleged sexual abuse in April 2014, 20th Century Fox had to quickly revamp its marketing campaign for Singer's X-Men: Days of Future Past. The director stopped doing press and skipped the film's world premiere the following month.
Sony's TriStar is suddenly facing a similar dilemma as it gears up for the release of All the Money in the World, starring Kevin Spacey opposite Mark Wahlberg and Michelle Williams. Overnight, Spacey has become the latest Hollywood power broker to find himself engulfed in a sexual assault scandal, likely making it difficult for him to make appearances on behalf of the movie unless the controversy dissipates quickly. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kevin-spacey-claims-could-impact-sonys-all-money-world-promo-plans-1053026_______________________ The back-lash against Spacey is not over.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:24 am
xerxes xerxes: And there’s the rub. Like the wise men in the Wu Tang Clan said: cash rules everything. Weinstein got away with being a sex pest because he made lots of money. Same with all the others. It’s all about money.
And it’s sad that morality takes a back seat to money but it’s not the first time nor will it be the last and nor is it a problem confined to Hollywood.
Hopefully, now things are changing that all of the stories that have been kept quiet or brushed off as rumour are brought into the light and things change and the sick fucks who use their positions to get their rocks off and insulate themselves from the consequences that would befall us plebes are brought to heel and the culture changes. I’m not too hopeful, but things already have changed a little. +5 
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:06 am
Interesting is that the Jeffrey Epstein "Lolita Express" issue is resurfacing with a vengeance because the flight logs that showed Bill Clinton traveling on the plane 26 times also show Clinton traveling with Kevin Spacey.
4chan and /pol are going after this like a dog with a bone.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:05 am
A fake president is held to a higher standard than the real one.
Would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:00 am
Thanos Thanos: His success with the first X-film kicked off the entire multi-billion dollar modern superhero phenomenon and rescued a comic book industry that was stuck in a really bad recession in the lat 90's/early 00's.  Not really germane to the main topic of the thread, but I thought I would comment on the bolded part. The Marvel Cinematic Universe may be going gangbusters, but Marvel Comics is in serious trouble. Note that Marvel Comics and Marvel Studios are separate entities under the Disney banner because of the falling out between Ike Perlmutter and Kevin Feige. Marvel Comics decided to replace many its core heroes (Hulk, Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man) with "diverse" legacy characters within the span of two years as well as push annual events like Secret Wars, Civil War II, and Secret Empire that both interrupt story lines in individual titles and bludgeon readers with heavy-handed allegories that ruin the escapist element of the genre (Nazi Cap, anyone?) and that's just the beginning of Marvel's woes. Marvel's flagship title Amazing Spider-Man ships a anemic 60,000 copies an issue at best while DC's flagship Batman ships 100,000 and is currently shipping biweekly. Note I said "ship" because Diamond "sales" figures only count number of copies shipped to retailers and not actual sales because I've seen photographs of thick stacks of unsold copies of Secret Empire and Marvel Legacy sitting on store shelves. If what I heard from sites like Bleeding Cool holds true, retailers are selling more of their DC stock than Marvel. ...but yeah, not relevant to the main topic so I'll stop here.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:08 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: BartSimpson BartSimpson: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Funny how the same group are able to ignore or excuse the predator in chief's crimes, that he openly admitted to and bragged about. What crimes are you referring to? And if you have proof of these crimes then you need to immediately call (857) 386-2000 and tell the nice agent your story. Translation: Der Fuhrer can do no wrong. Your love for everything Nazi is just as embarrassing as your TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), Bruh! Dustin Hoffman Sexually Harassed Me When I Was 17 $1: The author, who slapped away the star's butt grabs and laughed off his vulgar language on the set of 1985 TV film 'Death of a Salesman,' still feels conflicted: "I loved the attention. Until I didn't."
This is a story I've told so often I'm sometimes surprised when someone I know hasn't heard it. It begins, "Dustin Hoffman sexually harassed me when I was 17." Then I give the details: When I was a senior in high school in New York City, interning as a production assistant on the set of the Death of a Salesman TV film, he asked me to give him a foot massage my first day on set; I did. He was openly flirtatious, he grabbed my ass, he talked about sex to me and in front of me. One morning I went to his dressing room to take his breakfast order; he looked at me and grinned, taking his time. Then he said, "I'll have a hard-boiled egg … and a soft-boiled clitoris." His entourage burst out laughing. I left, speechless. Then I went to the bathroom and cried http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-me-i-was-17-guest-column-1053466________________________  ________________________ Hollywood right now.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:09 am
Yeah, that's a recent phenomenon too, over the last five years or so. A handful of editors decided to go all-SJW and toy with the established heroes too much and it's overall failure has really bitten Marvel hard. Turns out that "get rid of the white guys" plays well with the activist types but not so much with the actual readership. There aren't enough gender studies goofs out there to make up for the amount of old readers that Marvel's lost because of this idiocy.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:21 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Interesting is that the Jeffrey Epstein "Lolita Express" issue is resurfacing with a vengeance because the flight logs that showed Bill Clinton traveling on the plane 26 times also show Clinton traveling with Kevin Spacey.
4chan and /pol are going after this like a dog with a bone. Oh yeah, I'm sure the super sleuths behind Pizzagate and Sandy Hook hoax are on the case like stink on a monkey. 
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:30 am
Thanos Thanos: Yeah, that's a recent phenomenon too, over the last five years or so. A handful of editors decided to go all-SJW and toy with the established heroes too much and it's overall failure has really bitten Marvel hard. Turns out that "get rid of the white guys" plays well with the activist types but not so much with the actual readership. There aren't enough gender studies goofs out there to make up for the amount of old readers that Marvel's lost because of this idiocy. Getting rid of the white guys is a sure-fire way to alienate the white guys who are the majority of the people who buy comic books. It's like opening a poutine shop in Montreal and then saying you don't want all those danged Quebeckers clogging the place up.
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