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Posts: 65472
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:22 am
newfette newfette:
You mean you wanted to go before we pour in the foreign aid to reconstruct their schools, hospitals, roads, industries, and etc?
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:23 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Well, that's the end of an era. How long will iot take to normalize relations with the Americans now? How long will it take for them to have open and fair elections?
A very long time still i imagine.
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Posts: 10843
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:25 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: newfette newfette: You mean you wanted to go before we pour in the foreign aid to reconstruct their schools, hospitals, roads, industries, and etc?
yes i wanted to go while fidel was still in power.. now I have to go soon before the americans screw it all up.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:31 am
newfette newfette: BartSimpson BartSimpson: newfette newfette: You mean you wanted to go before we pour in the foreign aid to reconstruct their schools, hospitals, roads, industries, and etc? yes i wanted to go while fidel was still in power.. now I have to go soon before the americans screw it all up.
Nice place,thats why Cubans are dieing to get out.
Pretty bad when the gals have to become hookers to just keep their family alive.
The Cuban Govt. knows this,the Canadian Govt, knows this,they have support groups in Calgary for people trying to bring folks over from Cuba.I've seen first hand what Cuba is like under Castro's regime from this group when a friend tried to help some people immigrate here.
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Posts: 10843
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:36 am
you have jyour opinion i have mine.
I think fidel did a great job in cuba. everyone has health care and 98% of his coutry is literate and he's fended off HOW MANY invasion attemps fromthe americans.
there's hookers in every country and people do it for different reasons. I'm sure not EVERY hooker in cuba is doing it to support their family just like i'm sure there are hookers that are doing it in canada to support themselves.
I never expected sucha blanket statement from you of all people zig
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:41 am
newfette newfette: you have jyour opinion i have mine.
I think fidel did a great job in cuba. everyone has health care and 98% of his coutry is literate and he's fended off HOW MANY invasion attemps fromthe americans.
there's hookers in every country and people do it for different reasons. I'm sure not EVERY hooker in cuba is doing it to support their family just like i'm sure there are hookers that are doing it in canada to support themselves.
I never expected sucha blanket statement from you of all people zig
Probably because I spent 3 years involved in bringing some people over and saw what the Cuban govt is really like and saw stuff tourists would never ever see.
Dont even start on health care untill you have been inside one of their hospitals.If thats universal health care I'll heal myself. They have more human rights violations against their people then most would ever admit to,the hookers/teachers start young,hell of a way to suppor the family.Cuba is not the feel good place you see on the TV commercials for it's people.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:45 am
newfette newfette: BartSimpson BartSimpson: newfette newfette: You mean you wanted to go before we pour in the foreign aid to reconstruct their schools, hospitals, roads, industries, and etc? yes i wanted to go while fidel was still in power.. now I have to go soon before the americans screw it all up.
If you like it so much then you should move there. 
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:46 am
ziggy ziggy: Dont even start on health care untill you have been inside one of their (Cuba) hospitals. Here you go: http://freethoughts.wordpress.com/2007/ ... re-part-i/$1: Cuba for Cubans
By Dr. Darsi Ferrer, Director, “Juan Bruno Zayas” Center for Health and Human Rights Havana, September 20, 2007
The official policy of APARTHEID imposed by the Cuban regime almost fifty years ago has harmful consequences for the health of the population. The few existing hospitals and polyclinics which have adequate conditions and resources are exclusively for the use of foreigners and members of the governing elite. For ordinary Cubans it is extremely difficult to receive medical attention.
Thousands of doctors and other health professionals, as well as essential medical resources, are diverted from public health and directed to political missions in countries such as Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua and Ecuador. To this end, thousands of tons of medicines, medical equipment and indispensible resources are donated. Missions carried out at the expense of increasing the deprivations suffered by Cubans.
The strategy of such a policy is centered on exporting Communist ideology to recipient countries, disguised as humanitarian actions. With the thousands of doctors and tons of resources expropriated from the Cuban population, consciences are manipulated, votes are assured in electoral campaigns and totalitarian systems are legitimated.
On the Island there is an alarming deficit of medicines, including essential medicines such as vitamins, antiacids and analgesics. Performing a simple medical exam or treatment is an Odyssean journey due to the lack of reagents and therapeutic or diagnostic equipment. This is the case with analyses of hemoglobin, glycemia, urine, or electrocardiograms, X-rays, ultrasounds, physiotherapy and other basic procedures.
It is time for the ignominy to end. CUBANS have every right to fully enjoy the capacities of the Nation. This is acknowledged in legislation presently in force. All marginalization is worthy of condemnation for the negative consequences it brings, and still worse when its genesis lies in the selfish interests of a small caste in power, and takes its condition from the origin of the nation.
Last edited by BartSimpson on Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Posts: 10843
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:47 am
I know tis not the feel good place you see on tv. I'm not as naive as you might think i am. I know its more then just the smiling faces on fancy resorts.
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Joe_Stalin
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Posts: 710
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:07 am
Good riddance to a despot. Soon he will be joining his buddies and Uncle Joe in hell.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:11 am
Joe_Stalin Joe_Stalin: Good riddance to a despot. Soon he will be joining his buddies and Uncle Joe in hell.
he just stepped down.. he's not dead 
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Katz
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Posts: 46
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:55 pm
Maybe this is the beginning of a slow and gradual change, who knows what the future holds
IMO, everyone needs to sit back and give this country a chance to find their own voice. Nothing changes over night.
Awesome people in Cuba.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:40 pm
newfette newfette: Joe_Stalin Joe_Stalin: Good riddance to a despot. Soon he will be joining his buddies and Uncle Joe in hell. he just stepped down.. he's not dead 
Not soon enough.
get ready for a number of CBC specials with the Trudeau brat gushing and bawling over poor old Unky-Fidel. They get a hat-trick of Trudeaumania, anti-Americanism and socialism in one big festering package. Nevermind that reality is a whole lot worst.. it's the CBC's job to gloss over that part.
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Posts: 10843
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:45 pm
hey easy now... he's not in charge anymore.. you dont need to wish him dead..
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Posts: 7835
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:46 pm
Everybody sing it with me! Nananana Na na na na heyyyyy GOODBYE
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