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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:23 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
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Leading academics and watchdog groups allege that the UN's main offset fund is being routinely abused by chemical, wind, gas and hydro companies who are claiming emission reduction credits for projects that should not qualify.

Let's put the blame where it belongs - on the thieving corporations.



Yup. It's always those greedy western companies?

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The Stanford paper, by Victor and his colleague Michael Wara, found that nearly every new hydro, wind and natural gas-fired plant expected to be built in China in the next four years is applying for CDM credits, even though it is Chinese policy to encourage these industries


This is proof that the Kyoto Accord is simply taking money from western countries to build Chinese inferstructure. Why would we help possibly the second strongest economy to build their projects.
This is a scam.


Yup! It's always those Chinese companies?


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What a well thought out comment. The placement of the question mark almost makes me believe you have a point..


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:32 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
What a well thought out comment. The placement of the question mark almost makes me believe you have a point..


Western companies buy credits.


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:49 pm
 


..and the money goes to places like China, where it builds their inferstructure.
I wonder what the UN would say if BC wanted money so we could build another damn?


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:00 pm
 


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And to think of all the money wasted on this scam when it could have been used for something worth while...

ya like on the miltary regimes of the world to create more war and carnage...
or maybe on rebuilding Afghansitan eh?


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:00 pm
 


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Tell that to the US and the folks in the Middle east (and OPEC)


Tell that to Alberta and Newfoundland...!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:03 pm
 


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Natural resources belong to humanity as a whole.


It was that mindset that caused the depletion of our fisheries... :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:06 pm
 


heard china was buying Alberta... :)


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:14 pm
 


ridenrain ridenrain:
..and the money goes to places like China, where it builds their inferstructure.
I wonder what the UN would say if BC wanted money so we could build another damn?


Chinese companies ("the thieving corporations") build Chinese infrastructures.


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..With misplaced guilt money from western nations. That's letting them build a new coal plant every week, overtake our manufacturing and reduce our standard of living. Where do you think Ontario auto jobs are going? How many people leaving there can take part in this fictional green economy and how many will have no choice to resort to crappy service or sales jobs?

The dream that we'll be building high tech windfarms or pioneering new carbon storage methods are a pipe dream sold by the Kyoto insiders.


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 4:52 am
 


They must have been listening to Dire Straits Money for Nothing when they drafted the Kyoto accord.


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ridenrain ridenrain:
..With misplaced guilt money from western nations. That's letting them build a new coal plant every week, overtake our manufacturing and reduce our standard of living. Where do you think Ontario auto jobs are going? How many people leaving there can take part in this fictional green economy and how many will have no choice to resort to crappy service or sales jobs?

The dream that we'll be building high tech windfarms or pioneering new carbon storage methods are a pipe dream sold by the Kyoto insiders.


International cooperation is not a zero-sum game.


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China isn't a basket case country and dosen't need our financial support.


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ridenrain ridenrain:
China isn't a basket case country and dosen't need our financial support.


If the West doesn't show China a better way, it will make up for lost time using the known Western polluting way to develop its economy.


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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 7:59 am
 


It's already polluting. It's now the world leader in pollution.
They don't need our money to clean up. They need a reason, and a large tariff of their polluted products is the way to do it.


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