[TattoodGirl]

hwacker hwacker:

Good motivation for hand guns. This POS would be dead if somebody on this bus had a gun.

And don't tell me this in one incident, tell that to the poor boys mother I’m sure she'll agree with you even though her boy is dead.

We can all see what a knife can do.

It’s all about the PERSON not the device used.

EXACTLY!!!!! Oh god i just agreed with you.

[herbie]

hwacker hwacker:

Good motivation for hand guns. This POS would be dead if somebody on this bus had a gun.

And don't tell me this in one incident, tell that to the poor boys mother I’m sure she'll agree with you even though her boy is dead.

We can all see what a knife can do.

It’s all about the PERSON not the device used.

And if the somebidy was the attacker, he could have taken out a dozen before anyone could react.
Surprised it took a whole page of posts for the knees to jerk...

[DerbyX]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

hwacker hwacker:

Good motivation for hand guns. This POS would be dead if somebody on this bus had a gun.

And don't tell me this in one incident, tell that to the poor boys mother I’m sure she'll agree with you even though her boy is dead.

We can all see what a knife can do.

It’s all about the PERSON not the device used.

EXACTLY!!!!! Oh god i just agreed with you.

He is wrong though. It happened so fast and so unexpected that the boy was likely dead before anybody could have reacted and its just as likely that in the ensuing panic that person with a gun might have shot an innocent bystander or worse yet lost that gun with the killer getting it.

Now sure someone could have shot the attacker dead and he certainly deserves death but here is something to think about.

With the attacker dead it is very likely the answers would have died with him and in senseless and tragic cases like this its often very important for the families to get answers for closure.

In addition we might lose the chance to idenify why it happened with the idea of preventing it from happening again.

[hwacker]

herbie herbie:

hwacker hwacker:

Good motivation for hand guns. This POS would be dead if somebody on this bus had a gun.

And don't tell me this in one incident, tell that to the poor boys mother I’m sure she'll agree with you even though her boy is dead.

We can all see what a knife can do.

It’s all about the PERSON not the device used.

And if the somebidy was the attacker, he could have taken out a dozen before anyone could react.
Surprised it took a whole page of posts for the knees to jerk...

You’re *ucked in the head.

If he had a bigger knife he take out 4 or 5 people.

Typical analogy of a coward.


This guy had/has problems, if he used a 5 gallon gas can he'd take out the whole bus. wanna ban those too ? Mr.gunscareme.

[TattoodGirl]

It is obvious it was a psychotic break. There really are no answers that will stop the families pain or anyone elses on that bus. I personally believe all drivers of Greyhounds should be armed with something. In Canada this guy will be put in PC..have the best care and education around. Just look at Olson...We dont have a justice system in this country that serves the victims.

[hwacker]

DerbyX DerbyX:

He is wrong though. It happened so fast and so unexpected that the boy was likely dead before anybody could have reacted and its just as likely that in the ensuing panic that person with a gun might have shot an innocent bystander or worse yet lost that gun with the killer getting it.

Yeah well coming from somebody thats never fired or handled a hand gun that holds about as much weight as herbie the love bugger’s post.

[TattoodGirl]

$1:

He is wrong though. It happened so fast and so unexpected that the boy was likely dead before anybody could have reacted and its just as likely that in the ensuing panic that person with a gun might have shot an innocent bystander or worse yet lost that gun with the killer getting it.

The psycho walked to the front of the bus with his head in his hand...theres time to take him down. Yes the poor kid was probably dead as soon as he hit the corroded artery, but it would take time to cut his head off. I have been at the scene of decapitations and those of fatal neck wounds...lets just say the decapitations stay with you. I would prefer to see someone taken out before they destroy the body...the family shouldnt have to view their son in that state.

A well trained gun owner knows how to use a gun and when...I dont think we should hand out guns like the US...that would be chaos, but there are some of us that know how to use and respect what can happen when mishandled.

[DerbyX]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

It is obvious it was a psychotic break. There really are no answers that will stop the families pain or anyone elses on that bus. I personally believe all drivers of Greyhounds should be armed with something. In Canada this guy will be put in PC..have the best care and education around. Just look at Olson...We dont have a justice system in this country that serves the victims.

What caused the break though? Was he taking 2 different meds that caused it or was he off his meds? Was he on some new street drug or ....?

While nothing can take the pain away I think you will find that in the vast majority of cases like this there is indeed great importance placed on getting answers for closure. Perhaps the families have a legal action against a pharmaceutic company? The need to know why is extremely important.

Take for example cases where they make deals with seriel killers in order to retrieve the remains of victims that the families know are deceased. The make those deals because its important for the families to get closure.

Take for example killers like Charles Ng. Even though he was tried and convicted of multiple homicides the families of his victims that he wasn't tried for (due to lack of evidence or other factor) actualy feel cheated even though they know full well it wouldn't add on more time or change the outcome of his sentencing.

Closure is very important and its a very valid reason for preventing lynch mobs and street justice.

[hwacker]

$1:

getting answers for closure

He's fucking nutts, what more do you need. Jeeze

This guy should be dead dead dead.

And this boy should be in a hospital recovering.



Stupid liberals would rather see a kid killed like this then kill the POS doing it.

logic that makes your head spin.

[DerbyX]

TattoodGirl TattoodGirl:

$1:

He is wrong though. It happened so fast and so unexpected that the boy was likely dead before anybody could have reacted and its just as likely that in the ensuing panic that person with a gun might have shot an innocent bystander or worse yet lost that gun with the killer getting it.

The psycho walked to the front of the bus with his head in his hand...theres time to take him down. Yes the poor kid was probably dead as soon as he hit the corroded artery, but it would take time to cut his head off. I have been at the scene of decapitations and those of fatal neck wounds...lets just say the decapitations stay with you. I would prefer to see someone taken out before they destroy the body...the family shouldnt have to view their son in that state.

A well trained gun owner knows how to use a gun and when...I dont think we should hand out guns like the US...that would be chaos, but there are some of us that know how to use and respect what can happen when mishandled.

If you take him down then you eliminate all the reasons I just mentioned and they are important ones that I feel override any form of instant justice/

As for a well trained gun owner? Why is it that very pro-gun argument seems to suggest that the average joe citizen who happens to witness a brutal event is a cool methodical marksman of the jason bourne variety?

You watch cops and see how many shootouts involve highly trained police hitting nothing. Hell, just last week I saw the episode where during a routine stop the 2 criminals turned and fired about a clip each at the cop who was no more then 3 feet away when they started fireing and they missed him completely.

There is every reason to believe that untrained civilians attempting to use their guns in that type of situation can escalate it to a spiralling worse situation which is further complicated when the cops do show up and don't know who is who.

[Blue_Nose]

Recovering from repeated hunting knife stab wounds in the neck? Was the bus parked inside an operating room?

It's disgusting that people take instances like this when emotions are high and information is lacking and spin them into political statements.

[DerbyX]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Recovering from repeated hunting knife stab wounds in the neck?

Makes as much sense as the rest of the bigotted and retarded crap he spews. One only need look ate his unbelievably incorrect strawman analysis of my posts.

[hwacker]

Blue_Nose Blue_Nose:

Recovering from repeated hunting knife stab wounds in the neck?

If I was sitting beside this poor kid the guy would be dead in 3 sec. People can survive a cut to the neck.


People cannot live without their head. (FACT)




Liberals have every excuse under the sun, except common sense.

[romanP]

beefcake beefcake:

wow!this is why canada needs to bring back the noose!

How would that have prevented this?

[TattoodGirl]

there is postmortem tox screens that can be done. If someone lawyers up, they will have to get a warrant to do a tox screen. By that time if there was drugs in the system, they will be gone. With psych meds there is a trail of want someone is being prescribed and if there has been any adverse effects in the past.

Clifford Robert Olsons family recieved 10,000 a body...sickening in my eyes. He has gone on to torment the families over the years all the while sitting in PC. They live in constant pain and he is thriving off their pain...that is unfair. Unfortunately, the familieW have to do victim impact statements everytime this monster comAs up for the 'faint hope' hearing...unfair.

Closure is very important, but it is rarely ever felt. The system in Canada does not support the victims or the families. If this guy is found incompetent to stand trial..how long will he spend in Forensics and how long until he is out on the street. I would rather see him @ead.