[PublicAnimalNo9]

"There may be a quota or review system in place that incents or encourages agents to produce x number of denials a week or simply the tone of official communications through the agency may make it clear to staff things are going to be done differently and more skepticism needs to be in place."

Well gee whiz, if you are correct in your assumption, just imagine, the government deciding who gets in instead of special interest groups and lawyers. What a fuckin concept!!!

[BeaverFever]

Oh, Jesus Christ....

Of course the government is and always has been the one who decides gets in, I'm not complaining about that. "Special interest groups and lawyers" have not been part of the equation.

What I'm saying is that I beleive this Conservative government has changed the process by which those decisions get made by its staffers and this womans' situation is likely a result of that new policy.

[EyeBrock]

And what I'm saying beaver is, back up your argument with some facts instead of just making stuff up.

[Brenda]

Why do people always think there are "quota's" to everything??

[EyeBrock]

Brenda Brenda:

Why do people always think there are "quota's" to everything??

Because they have no clue about reality Brenda. This whole episode has gone from enforcement of our immigration laws on a suspect passport to a political and partisan agenda. Very typical in modern-day Canada. The rules are subject to political interference and it doesn't really matter if the High Commission guys in Kenya were right, they were obviously RACIST!

You should know by now that any challenge you make to this kind of stuff makes you a red-neck racist.

Immigration is a scared cow and thou shalt not have an opinion on it.
So endeth the lesson.

[Brenda]

[BeaverFever]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

And what I'm saying beaver is, back up your argument with some facts instead of just making stuff up.

Like I said its my suspicionthat this is cause, based on the typical comments that conservatives make, a small handful of similar cases of foreigners who have been caught up in similar situations, and the government's initial decision to do nothing about the case until it caught the public eye. If I knew it to be fact, I would have said "its a fact" and not "maybe" or "I suggest that..."

[EyeBrock]

And my suspicion is that you are looking for any excuse to crap on the Tories.

You really should have more foundation to your posts than this.

I suspect that she is a fraud.
I suspect that the Federal Court is made up of left-leaning activist judges who are basically traitors to Canada.
I suspect half of the IRB is made up of lying criminals intent on destroying the fabric of our country by letting more criminals into Canada that are posing as refugees.
I suspect that many immigrants don't give a shit about Canada and are just here to get what they can out of us.

And I suspect you know nothing about this subject, but I can't prove any of it so I don't post it.

Ooops, I did!

[martin14]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

And my suspicion is that you are looking for any excuse to crap on the Tories.

You really should have more foundation to your posts than this.

I suspect that she is a fraud.
I suspect that the Federal Court is made up of left-leaning activist judges who are basically traitors to Canada.
I suspect half of the IRB is made up of lying criminals intent on destroying the fabric of our country by letting more criminals into Canada that are posing as refugees.
I suspect that many immigrants don't give a shit about Canada and are just here to get what they can out of us.

And I suspect you know nothing about this subject, but I can't prove any of it so I don't post it.

Ooops, I did!

[BeaverFever]

DUDE, they've already given her a DNA test and proved that she is the right person. CASE CLOSED!! You're not one of those religous conservative nuts who thinks DNA and science are part of a vast left-wing conspiracy are you?


I suspect that you suspect all those things because you're a closed-minded xenophobe who has lived a sheltered life and only ever encountered people exactly like yourself. Therefore you are predispositioned to assume the absolute worst about anyone and anything foreign to your tiny world while expecting everyone else to assume the absolute best about you and yours at all times.

$1:

Mohamud, born in Somalia, was held in Kenya in May after authorities said the lips in her four-year-old passport photo didn't resemble her lips.


Canadian consular officials voided her passport and urged Kenyan officials to prosecute her, even after Mohamud displayed numerous pieces of identification, offered fingerprints and insisted her DNA be tested.


On Monday, genetic tests confirmed her identity.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Stranded+Canadian+starts+trip+back+home+from+Kenya/1893098/story.html

[ridenrain]

The DNA test proved that she had the same DNA as her Canadian relatives, not that she was who she said she was.
.. but in your little world, this is all because Harper is a racist.

[poquas]

It’s disturbing that being a Canadian citizen no longer means support from the Canadian government. In some cases, I agree we don’t want to repatriate some of our citizens but either it’s fair across the board or the government is going to discriminate and it certainly appears that Harper’s government is doing just that.

The present government has no hesitation to support (after the media raises the roof) and fly a white woman back from Mexico on a private jet paid for with our tax dollars and yet a mother visiting Kenya has her citizenship questioned and then discarded by our local government representatives. If any of you don’t look EXACTLY like your passport photo I suggest you don’t leave the country.

Our courts are having to force the government to act in cases that make our country look like some third world dictatorship.

We have allowed many people to obtain citizenship for convenience. We have let people into our country we shouldn’t have BUT once the citizenship is obtained, we can’t have two classes for the reigning government of the time to decide whether they’re a REAL Canadian or not.

[ridenrain]

poquas poquas:

The present government has no hesitation to support (after the media raises the roof) and fly a white woman back from Mexico on a private jet paid for with our tax dollars and yet a mother visiting Kenya has her citizenship questioned and then discarded by our local government representatives. If any of you don’t look EXACTLY like your passport photo I suggest you don’t leave the country.

Bullshit. I guess your convienient lefty memory forgot that there was a huge campaign behind getting Brenda Martin out of Mexico.

I need to post my earlier letter:

$1:

Ms. Mohamud was initially stopped by Kenyan officials because her photos did not match. When Ms. Mohamud originally arrive at the airport a photo was taken of her by Kenyan immigration officials and when she arrived at the airport to depart the person who presented Ms. Mohamud passport did not match either the passport photo or the airports entry photo. That’s when CBSA was contacted to investigate. Foreign Affairs and CSBA have conducted four separate investigations and she has failed each one including the visual photo matching tests, extensive interviews, etc. Fingerprints were requested by Foreign Affairs in the hopes that they might match sets in Canada but to date there are no prints on record with CIC or any other agency or police department. Consular services are not being provided to the woman who presented herself as Ms. Mohamud because she is not a Canadian citizen.

I was also informed by DFAIT that CBSA deals with on average 5 cases of passport fraud a week in Nairobi and they have a well developed manner of investigating these types of cases. I have put in a similar request for information from CBSA to make sure their story matches the one I received from DFAIT.

[poquas]

All that to confirm that only one word of your post has any relevance?

Bullshit.

And after all that bullshit, DNA proves you and the government was wrong.

Disgraceful.

[ridenrain]

Can you prove that this case is any different than those other 5 frauds they get every week?