[acidcomplex]

Lemmy Lemmy:

My stance on players turing to draw a penalty is that it doesn't happen. Yes, it COULD happen, but who would risk a broken neck to draw a penalty?

Sorry you just lost all clout in my eyes, Doesnt happen? seriously?

Lemmy Lemmy:

I've never seen it and I doubt that it happens.

Seen it and done it myself

Lemmy Lemmy:

If a coach actually did coach what you suggest, they'd be suspended from ever coaching hockey in this country again.

oh my lord i just am gonna stop right there, i cant take you anymore.

[Lemmy]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

oh my lord i just am gonna stop right there, i cant take you anymore.

Likewise, because you're full of shit.

[acidcomplex]

Lemmy Lemmy:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

oh my lord i just am gonna stop right there, i cant take you anymore.

Likewise, because you're full of shit.

lol I have no need to prove myself to you.

[Lemmy]

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

lol I have no need to prove myself to you.

Correct, but you owe it to the teams you're officiating to know the rules.

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.php/ci_id/58611/la_id/1.htm

I suggest you review rule 6.4 on Pages 80-81.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

I checked out the video over and over. To me, it looks like a case of real bad timing and not an intent to injure. (Keep in mind, I'm a huge Ranger's fan).
What I saw was a Ranger behind the net, an Erie player lining him up for a good body check, and at the last second, the Ranger player turned to make a pass around the boards and got hammered. I honestly believe the Erie player couldn't have stopped in time, even if he wanted to. I think the punishment was over the top in this case. I feel really bad for both players.
If anything, the OHL needs to take another look at allowing over-age players to play a full contact sport against 16-17 year olds.

[acidcomplex]

Lemmy Lemmy:

acidcomplex acidcomplex:

lol I have no need to prove myself to you.

Correct, but you owe it to the teams you're officiating to know the rules.

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.php/ci_id/58611/la_id/1.htm

I suggest you review rule 6.4 on Pages 80-81.

lol i know the rules, and the rules are open to interpretation to a point, and in the end it my call whether its a hit from behind in a case like this. You remind me of a BORG. Not seven of Nine though....giddy up

[acidcomplex]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I checked out the video over and over. To me, it looks like a case of real bad timing and not an intent to injure. (Keep in mind, I'm a huge Ranger's fan).
What I saw was a Ranger behind the net, an Erie player lining him up for a good body check, and at the last second, the Ranger player turned to make a pass around the boards and got hammered. I honestly believe the Erie player couldn't have stopped in time, even if he wanted to. I think the punishment was over the top in this case. I feel really bad for both players.
If anything, the OHL needs to take another look at allowing over-age players to play a full contact sport against 16-17 year olds.

Agreed

[Regina]

The unfortunate part of the suspension is that he only had 13 points in 357 OHL games along with 357 penalty minutes. If he were a 30 goal scorer he'd have gotten a game or two.

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

My stance on players turing to draw a penalty is that it doesn't happen.

Thanks for confirming what I think of most refs.

That is the stupidest thing I've read today.

[Choban]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I checked out the video over and over. To me, it looks like a case of real bad timing and not an intent to injure. (Keep in mind, I'm a huge Ranger's fan).
What I saw was a Ranger behind the net, an Erie player lining him up for a good body check, and at the last second, the Ranger player turned to make a pass around the boards and got hammered. I honestly believe the Erie player couldn't have stopped in time, even if he wanted to. I think the punishment was over the top in this case. I feel really bad for both players.
If anything, the OHL needs to take another look at allowing over-age players to play a full contact sport against 16-17 year olds.

That's pretty much what I was saying when asking Lemmy my questions. I myself haven't played organized hockey since I was about 12 and really don't know things from an officials end, just wondering truthfully.
The whole thing looks accidental to me and watching the video agian the Rangers kids looks at the approaching player twice before playing the puck. I'm thinking a bad decision on both sides.

[Lemmy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Lemmy Lemmy:

My stance on players turing to draw a penalty is that it doesn't happen.

You'd turn and risk a broken neck to get a penalty called in a meaningless minor hockey game? Would you want your kid doing it? Would you want your kid's coach telling your kid to do it? Give your fucking head a shake.

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Thanks for confirming what I think of most refs.

Yeah, refs...we give up our evenings and weekends so kids can play hockey. We give up our time to make a game safe for our youngsters and in exchange, we get to take shit from idiots like you who don't know the game half as well as they think they do.

2Cdo 2Cdo:

That is the stupidest thing I've read today.

You've typed far more stupidity than you've read.

[2Cdo]

Lemmy Lemmy:

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Lemmy Lemmy:

My stance on players turing to draw a penalty is that it doesn't happen.

You'd turn and risk a broken neck to get a penalty called in a meaningless minor hockey game? Would you want your kid doing it? Would you want your kid's coach telling your kid to do it? Give your fucking head a shake.

Now where exactly did I say I would turn or want my kids doing it. Oh, that's right I didn't. But you did claim it doesn't happen when others have told of kids being coached to do it and I have SEEN it done. But then again I'm not a ref.

Lemmy Lemmy:

Yeah, refs...we give up our evenings and weekends so kids can play hockey. We give up our time to make a game safe for our youngsters and in exchange, we get to take shit from idiots like you who don't know the game half as well as they think they do.

You're right 35+ years of playing and coaching up to and including major junior A but you know the game better by officiating house league peewees.
I appreciate the sacrifices that people make for all aspects of the game. You think you have the market cornered on abuse? Try coaching at a higher level then you've reffed at and tell me about abuse. In my opinion the refs that get the most abuse are the power hungry, "I'm the man" types not the ones who call a good fair game. I guess we know which camp you're in.

Lemmy Lemmy:

I've typed far more stupidity than you've read.

Just fixed your post a little.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Regina Regina:

The unfortunate part of the suspension is that he only had 13 points in 357 OHL games along with 357 penalty minutes. If he were a 30 goal scorer he'd have gotten a game or two.

Very true, the same thing happens in the NHL. When a premier player makes what is percieved as a dirty hit, he might get a couple of games. But, if the player is an enforcer type that makes what is percieved as a dirty hit, the punishment is more severe.

On a slightly different note, and not having anything to do with what happened recently, I've always contended that if you recieve a suspension for injuring a player intentionally, the suspension should be for as long as the other player is out. Regardless of the level of the league

[Lemmy]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Now where exactly did I say I would turn or want my kids doing it. Oh, that's right I didn't. But you did claim it doesn't happen when others have told of kids being coached to do it and I have SEEN it done. But then again I'm not a ref.

What I claimed was that I DOUBT it happens and that I have never seen it. If it is happening then there's some coaches that should never coach again. But it still makes no sense to risk a kid's life for a minor penalty in minor hockey. If you say you've seen it, then fine, it happens.

2Cdo 2Cdo:

You're right 35+ years of playing and coaching up to and including major junior A but you know the game better by officiating house league peewees.
I appreciate the sacrifices that people make for all aspects of the game. You think you have the market cornered on abuse? Try coaching at a higher level then you've reffed at and tell me about abuse. In my opinion the refs that get the most abuse are the power hungry, "I'm the man" types not the ones who call a good fair game. I guess we know which camp you're in.

And I've played and officiated some high level hockey myself. I agree with you on the types of officials that are the poorest. Why you'd presume I fall into that group is ignorant and hostile on your part. If I got my back up, it's because you were rude.