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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:07 pm
 


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Just what do you think it means when they say these girls were drawn to the night time economy? Bible study?


Who's this mysterious "they".

However, if some clueless twit really did suggest "the night time economy" had something to do with how 11 year old girls were contacted and groomed, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He's either sick, an idiot, or a sick idiot. Please tell me you didn't think of that one by yourself.

BTW do you remember you're responding to a specific link above where they specifically told you an assortment of the specific methods used by the Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs to pick up underage non-muslim girls?

Before you tell me it's not there, here it is aqain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3Bq7eQzoE

Read it, or if you can't cause the words are too big or something, find somebody to read it to you. Maybe one of the bigger boys at the institution can help you out.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:38 pm
 


Grooming gangs in Manchester set to be raided: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... alone.html


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Grooming gangs in Manchester set to be raided: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... alone.html


Good read.

And from the article...

Here's Andy's "Night time economy"

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The conviction of the men responsible for abusing this girl, pictured, has prompted a far wider probe

I'm starting to think the sleaze perpetuating the lie aren't much better than the filth that perpetrated the deed.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:24 pm
 


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Grooming gangs in Manchester set to be raided: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... alone.html


Telegraphing the move ?

I guess airport business to Pakistan will be busy.


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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerscruto ... rrectness/


and the comment from this guy is just priceless.


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These Pakistanis have adopted the British values of grooming young children. They are the product of the British schooling with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. I have been doing Jihad in the field of education for the last 40 years so that each and every Muslim child should be in a state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. I would like to see Muslim children developing Cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities so that they could keep themselves away from western barbarity of anti-social behaviour, binge drinking, drug addiction, teen age pregnancies and abortion and lot of other evils but people like you do not want to see Muslim children in Muslim schools in the name of integration. Now you have seen the result in the form of sexual grooming of young children which is a common occurrence in your culture.

Western girls of 9 and 11 are having babies out of wedlock but they are not allowed to marry at such ages. Thanks to sex education in primary schools. Obviously a lot of people are ignorant about sex education in our primary schools, which is a lot more explicit than a display in Boots. Children are sexually aware at an early age and therefore are encouraged to experiment with their bodies which is not wise.

The native Brits have double standards and are hypocrites; they don’t mention the fact that the majority of men who go to countries in East Asia looking for under aged sex are natives European men.

This is sickening. It’s no wonder Great Britain is in such a bad shape. Ten years old British girls are having babies out of wedlock. They are not allowed to get married but are allowed to have babies. Teenage pregnancy rate in Great Britain is the highest in Western Europe. It is a civilised country and Yemen is a backward country because it allows young girls to get married.

Teenage pregnancy rate in Great Britain is the highest in western Europe. It is a civilised country and Yemen is a backward country because it allows young girls to get married. It is also gross hypocrisy for the police to prosecute paedophiles when the government is overseeing boy scouts being given condoms from the age 11 and girls of the same age being told it is OK to have sex if they use ‘protection’. Boys and girls at age 11 are not allowed to marry but they can have sex and produce children. Every parent is worried about his child being indoctrinated into the idea that gay and sexual promiscuity is “normal” modes of behaviour. At the same time, all parents have the right to control their children and it is their Duty to control them.

What’s the point of the legal age being 16 when you are being taught at school that it’s ok as long as you practice safe sex. Nothing about love, respect, serious relationships or more importantly abstinence! Oh and something needs to be done about BOYS, too! Girls can’t be the only ones responsible for resisting pressure you know. More sex education in schools = more teenage pregnancies= more abortions. One of the problems is that now in schools we are taught safe sex at an early age, and not abstinence. The message was basically that sex at a young age is fine as long as it’s practiced safely. It should be taught that at such a young age, neither protected or unprotected sex is ok. The message is simply not clear enough.

Indiscipline, incivility, binge drinking, drug addiction, gun and knife crimes, teenage pregnancies and abortion are part and parcel of British schooling. These are the reasons why majority of Muslim parents would like to send their children to Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. Only less than 5% attend Muslim schools and more than 95% keep on attending state and church schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:44 am
 


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Grooming gangs in Manchester set to be raided: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... alone.html


Telegraphing the move ?

I guess airport business to Pakistan will be busy.


No not the Telegraph, the Mail. :lol:

Brilliant move, since there are so many no-go moslem areas in the big cities, have the police just go to the airports. "If the police can't go to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the police."


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 7:31 am
 


Not moslem, eh? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html


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So what now? You go from claiming 95% of the child pimps in Britain are Muslim, now you're reduced to bringing up Rotherham again, as if this proves it. It's well documented that this particular grooming gang was made up primarily of Pakistani Muslims. It's also well documented that where ethnicity was determined, the majority of these perps in Britain were white. Pakistani Muslims made up a small minority of identified perps, tho there were many who were not categorized, so we don't know what they were.

You want to demonstrate that there's something about Islam that makes groomers do this, to the exclusion of other religious backgrounds, in all of Britain, not just Rotherham, please provide solid references.

You want to prove that there's something about Pakistani culture that makes groomers do this, to the exclusion of all other ethnic backgrounds, in all of Britain, not just Rotherham, please provide solid references.

You wont be able to. This is a worldwide phenomenon, with the pimps being of all races, ethnicities and religions. (Doubt if most are very religous). Rotherham got attention because it was allowed to fester for so long, since authorities were afraid of being called racist and actually held the same low opinions of the victims as the perps. (Another worldwide phenomenon, these girls are despised and blamed by good burghers everywhere). This was clearly stated in some of the articles that have been posted here.

But I guess it's more comfortable to make it about them, rather than us, as in these pimps come from our backgrounds as much as the dreaded other. Still haven't heard one serious and actionable suggestion about what to do about all these terrible Muslims running amok with our womenfolk except to prosecute them vigorously and give them stiff sentences. Same as anybody else who pimps out kids.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:37 am
 


Child sex shame of Brazil: Kids forced into prostitution by World Cup gangs

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... z3BzoPgXcd
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Top Five Countries with Highest Rates of Child Prostitution

Sri Lanka, Thailand, Brazil, USA, Canada

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/top-five-coun ... ml#I0wIkDZ

A woman who used drugs and alcohol to lure "weak and vulnerable" girls into a life of prostitution has been found guilty of running a child sex ring.

Amanda Spencer, from Sheffield, was aged 16 when she began befriending her victims - some as young as 13 - later forcing them to have sex for cash.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sout ... e-27132856


Man those Pakistani Muslims are devious. And worldwide, it seems


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The history of child prostitution is one of dissembling. In Britain we find it difficult to talk about the fact that child prostitution exists. We want to blame it on foreigners. We want to say that it’s unethical for actors to depict such realities. We simply don’t want to admit, even now, that child prostitution exists. It is easier to conceive of the problem as one created by Asian or Pakistani men, Belgian bullies and Mayhew’s Jews, and that’s that.

Yet the inescapable fact is that child prostitution is part of British life. It’s a product of deprivation, poverty, abuse and a series of hardships that break the spirit, devalue a sense of self to the degree that some young teenagers feel that the risk to their lives is inconsequential. It may be true that some Asian or Pakistani gangs are particularly active in child prostitution. But if gangs vanished overnight, child prostitution would remain with us.

That’s the hard truth to face up to. Notions of racial groups and ‘grooming’ are a distraction. The idea that men come along, identify vulnerable girls and exploit them has some truth in them, but it also masks a deeper reality of children whose lives are a state of such emotional confusion that affection, abandonment, violence, love and abuse become fused into a single crushing experience of life-long neglect and exploitation.

It’s much simpler to blame Asian gangs, Belgian bullies and street-wise groomers. It simplifies the problem of poverty and neglect and exonerates the fundamental injustices in society that are at the root of sexual exploitation. It allows us to look the other way and, tragically, in doing so, prolongs the abuse of children.



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:43 am
 


andyt andyt:
You want to demonstrate that there's something about Islam that makes groomers do this, to the exclusion of other religious backgrounds, in all of Britain, not just Rotherham, please provide solid references.

You want to prove that there's something about Pakistani culture that makes groomers do this, to the exclusion of all other ethnic backgrounds, in all of Britain, not just Rotherham, please provide solid references.


From another grooming case in Rochdale:
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udge Gerald Clifton said the men, eight of Pakistani origin and one from Afghanistan, treated the girls "as though they were worthless and beyond respect".

The judge added: "One of the factors leading to that was the fact that they were not part of your community or religion.




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But I guess it's more comfortable to make it about them, rather than us, as in these pimps come from our backgrounds as much as the dreaded other. Still haven't heard one serious and actionable suggestion about what to do about all these terrible Muslims running amok with our womenfolk except to prosecute them vigorously and give them stiff sentences. Same as anybody else who pimps out kids.


You haven't heard--I agree with that.

I don't see your solution--that it got on everywhere and always has and there's no stopping it so what's the point--particularly useful.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 11:52 am
 


FactCheck: what do we know about the grooming gangs?

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The publication of a damning report into how the authorities handled child exploitation in Rotherham has prompted the leader of the local council to resign.

The independent inquiry by Professor Alexis Jay found that 1,400 youngsters suffered sexual exploitation including rape and trafficking in the South Yorkshire town over a 16-year period.

We know that the case which led to the conviction of five men in Rotherham is not the only one of its kind. Could the abuse that has already come to light be just the tip of the iceberg?

Here’s what we know (and what we don’t) about the child grooming gangs.


How many gangs?
The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) – the national anti-paedophile police command – divides networks of sex offenders into two groups.

So-called ”Type 1 offenders” target young people “on the basis of their vulnerability, rather than as a result of a specific preferential sexual interest in children”.

Ceop received intelligence from 31 out of 43 police forces on groups like this who were known or suspected to have abused vulnerable children in 2012.

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There were 57 such groups, ranging from two to 25 suspects, on the radar of those 31 constabularies. We don’t know if any have now been convicted.

So-called “Type 2″ groups – where the offenders have a long-standing sexual interest in children, were much less common. Only seven known or suspected paedophile rings were reported to Ceop.

It is possible to track cases that have been through the courts via media reports, although this is pretty unscientific.

In 2011 the Times journalist Andrew Norfolk identified 17 cases that had led to convictions where there had been a similar pattern of grooming.

In all cases, the victims were vulnerable teenage girls, often in the care of social services. They were approached on the street by men, befriended and plied with alcohol or drugs, before being sexually abused.

Updating the list to include more recent convictions that fit the same pattern, we find that there have been at least 27 similar cases in the last decade.

By date of conviction, we have evidence of such exploitation taking place in Keighley (2005 and 2013), Blackpool (2006), Oldham (2007 and 2008), Blackburn (2007, 2008 and 2009), Sheffield (2008), Manchester (2008 and 2013) Skipton (2009), Rochdale (two cases in 2010, one in 2012 and another in 2013), Nelson (2010), Preston (2010) Rotherham (2010) Derby (2010), Telford (2012), Bradford (2012), Ipswich (2013), Birmingham (2013), Oxford (2013), Barking (2013) and Peterborough (2013).

This is based on a trawl of news sources so is almost certainly incomplete.

Race and religion
The Jay report into failings in Rotherham says: “By far the majority of perpetrators were described as Asian by victims, yet throughout the entire period, councillors did not engage directly with the Pakistani-heritage community to discuss how best they could jointly address the issue.

“Some councillors seemed to think it was a one-off problem, which they hoped would go away. Several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist; others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.”

Ceop data about the ethnicity of offenders and suspects identified by those 31 police forces in 2012 is incomplete.

The unit says: “All ethnicities were represented in the sample. However, a disproportionate number of offenders were reported as Asian.”

Of 52 groups where ethnicity data was provided, 26 (50 per cent) comprised all Asian offenders, 11 (21 per cent) were all white, 9 (17 per cent) groups had offenders from multiple ethnicities, 4 (8 per cent) were all black offenders and there were 2 (4 per cent) exclusively Arab groups.

Of the 306 offenders whose ethnicity was noted, 75 per cent were categorised as Asian, 17 per cent white, and the remaining 8 per cent black (5 per cent) or Arab (3 per cent).

By contrast, the seven “Type 2 groups” – paedophile rings rather than grooming gangs – “were reported as exclusively of white ethnicity”.

Ceop identified 144 victims of the Type 1 groups. Again, the data was incomplete. Gender was mentioned in 118 cases. All were female. Some 97 per cent of victims were white.

Girls aged between 14 and 15 accounted for 57 per cent of victims. Out of 144 girls, 100 had “at least one identifiable vulnerability” like alcohol or drug problems, mental health issues or a history of going missing. More than half of the victims were in local authority care.

The 27 court cases that we found led to the convictions of 92 men. Some 79 (87 per cent) were reported as being of South Asian Muslim origin.

Three were white Britons, two were Indian, three were Iraqi Kurds, four were eastern European Roma and one was a Congolese refugee, according to reports of the trials.

Considerable caution is needed when looking at these numbers, as our sample is very unscientific. There are grooming cases we will have missed, and there will undoubtedly be offences that have not resulted in convictions.

Why are so many victims white?
We’re into the realm of opinion now.

Sentencing nine men in 2012 over offences in Rochdale, judge Gerald Clifton told the defendants they had treated their victims “as though they were worthless and beyond all respect”, adding: “I believe that one of the factors that led to that was that they were not of your community or religion.”

But at the Derby trial in 2010 the judge said he thought the race of the victims and their abusers was “coincidental”.

One of the victims of the Oxford gang told the Guardian that her abusers had asked her to recruit other teenagers and “specified that they wanted only white girls”.

Ceop says: “The comparative levels of freedom that white British children enjoy in comparison to some other ethnicities may make them more vulnerable to exploitation.

“They may also be more likely to report abuse. This is an area requiring better data and further research.”

How many children are at risk?
A report by the Office of the Children’s Commissioner found that 2,409 children were confirmed as victims of sexual exploitation in gangs and groups in the 14 months between August 2010 to October 2011.

If that sounds low compared to the 1,400 identified in Rotherham alone, remember that this number covers 16 years.

This probably only scratches the surface of the real number of victims, and the children’s commissioner said that at least 16,500 children had been identified as being “at risk of sexual exploitation” during one year.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:15 pm
 


I know what the solution is not.

It is not what has been done over the last 20 years, which is ignoring the problem based on some inculcated policy of self-destructive refusal to observe the obvious.

The big problem now is not even that segments of an immigrant population manifest religious bigotries spread through a tribal culture into our own.

The problem is they can. The toxin of political correctness allows it and even in the face of atrocities so obvious they can't be ignored the fully indoctrinated to the idiot side of the political spectrum that promulgated the policy of self-destructive, ignorance are demanding you continue to ignore the obvious.

They tell you 'Other people have done similar things. From that you are to conclude tribal gangs of Muslims from the subcontinent are not doing what everybody now knows they are doing. Nothing to see here. Move along.

They've chosen to wallow in the filth. Fine. They become it. They are the problem now.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:30 pm
 


BBC Saturday Morning Live - Multiculturalism a failure






Poll shows a 95% NO to multiculturalism.

Owen Jones, a teeny looking 4th generation Communist twat from the Guardian immediately goes on an inter racial tirade.
What a way to deflect, our anti Jew crew should take notes. :lol:


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Enoch Powell was right. :|

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All their theories have failed. The inevitable is really just a matter of time.


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