[Gunnair]

Jonny_C Jonny_C:

Gunnair Gunnair:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

I'd argue the thing that's the most creepy is that you came up with that thought all by yourself.

Odd fantasy though.

Hey, I'm just running that cat up the flag pole to see who'd skin it.

And guess who showed up?

That wouldn't be called trolling, would it?

If talking about OTI wearing a Hello Kitty costume for jj242's webcam is trolling, then I don't know what to think anymore.

[OnTheIce]

Gunnair Gunnair:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Gunnair Gunnair:

The idea that OTI may have to sit in front of a webcam in a Hello Kitty costume is a touch creepy.

I'd argue the thing that's the most creepy is that you came up with that thought all by yourself.

Odd fantasy though.

Hey, I'm just running that cat up the flag pole to see who'd skin it.

And guess who showed up?

Ray's the resident troll...you can keep your personal fantasies to yourself.

[Jonny_C]

Gunnair Gunnair:

If talking about OTI wearing a Hello Kitty costume for jj242's webcam is trolling, then I don't know what to think anymore.

Stirring the pot, then.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

He seems like he's been pretty well behaved for the past 40 years. I don't buy the 'It's because I'm black' argument but this guy committed offences during a very turbulent time in the US.

I'm pretty sure if I'd been a black American in the 1950's and 1960's I'd have been joining in with the struggle for equality.

I didn't realize shooting cops was an essential part of the struggle for equality. Would that argument work for you if an FN did the same thing today?

The other problem is, the guy is NOT Canadian. He came here illegally under a false name as a fugitive, not that it matters to the Dippers.

Did I say that? What's the link on this and First Nations?

I merely asked because you seemed to excuse this guy's actions "because of the times".
Don't worry, it was probably more rhetorical than anything else. I was just surprised to hear a police officer essentially justify this guy shooting a police officer. At least that's the way I read it

[PublicAnimalNo9]

Benn Benn:

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

He seems like he's been pretty well behaved for the past 40 years. I don't buy the 'It's because I'm black' argument but this guy committed offences during a very turbulent time in the US.

I'm pretty sure if I'd been a black American in the 1950's and 1960's I'd have been joining in with the struggle for equality.

I didn't realize shooting cops was an essential part of the struggle for equality. Would that argument work for you if an FN did the same thing today?

The other problem is, the guy is NOT Canadian. He came here illegally under a false name as a fugitive, not that it matters to the Dippers.

Kinda my take. Shooting anyone is a crime and I doubt a decent self defense argument could be made against shooting a cop. IF he served his time then moved up here and had a quiet 30 year life I'd be happy for him. Just since he managed to escape and avoid responsibility for 30 years (and still does not take it) does not mean he should bypass the rules most people who come to Canada do. Such as no violent criminal history and not sneaking into the country. Also have to point out that those 30 years he was here are 30 years straight committing fraud.

BTW, did anyone else notice the guy was so cocky about his escape that he took the name "FREEMAN"

You know, it's times like this when I seriously believe the Dippers would love to able to man the major points of entry into Canada, and every person that set foot in this country would get a friendly, "Welcome to Canada. Here's a cheque and your citizenship papers".

[EyeBrock]

PA9; I see your point. Mine; He was convicted of the offence and served his time, 40 odd years ago.

I'm looking at it context. The US of cops of the 1960's were not known for an empathetic and diverse approach to black people's issues. Even those of us in blue today are aware that those who came before us didn't treat all citizens equally. Sure he lied about his ID. He should pay for that and then we should move on. No offences since, I'd say he deserves a 2nd go.

We permit violent immigrants who have lied to stay daily. Judging this guy in a vacuum makes no sense.

[Gunnair]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Gunnair Gunnair:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

I'd argue the thing that's the most creepy is that you came up with that thought all by yourself.

Odd fantasy though.

Hey, I'm just running that cat up the flag pole to see who'd skin it.

And guess who showed up?

Ray's the resident troll...you can keep your personal fantasies to yourself.

Ray is a troll?

Me thinks you might have a sensitivity issue.

If you need to curl up in bubble wrap to log into the forums and have a conservation with Ray because you think he's going to troll you, then I actually feel a bit bad for you, sport.

[Gunnair]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

PA9; I see your point. Mine; He was convicted of the offence and served his time, 40 odd years ago.

I'm looking at it context. The US of cops of the 1960's were not known for an empathetic and diverse approach to black people's issues. Even those of us in blue today are aware that those who came before us didn't treat all citizens equally. Sure he lied about his ID. He should pay for that and then we should move on. No offences since, I'd say he deserves a 2nd go.

We permit violent immigrants who have lied to stay daily. Judging this guy in a vacuum makes no sense.

Nor was there near the level of scrutiny and public accountability. Irrespective of the dumb raising of the race card, holding this guy's actions in the 60's civil right movement against him is silly.

[Benn]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

PA9; I see your point. Mine; He was convicted of the offence and served his time, 40 odd years ago.

He did? I read it that before being convicted he jumped bail and fled, therefore served no time beyond what he did in remand. If he was convicted he would not be on bail but on parole or probation if not sitting in jail. Jumped bail tells me he never even got to sentencing.

$1:

Pannell jumped bail, lived in hiding, fled to Montreal in 1974,

[Yogi]

Benn Benn:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

PA9; I see your point. Mine; He was convicted of the offence and served his time, 40 odd years ago.

He did? I read it that before being convicted he jumped bail and fled, therefore served no time beyond what he did in remand. If he was convicted he would not be on bail but on parole or probation if not sitting in jail. Jumped bail tells me he never even got to sentencing.

$1:

Pannell jumped bail, lived in hiding, fled to Montreal in 1974,

Mr. Freeman was arrested in 2004. He spent four years in a Canadian prison fighting extradition, and was deported in February, 2008. He pleaded guilty in Chicago to aggravated assault, received a 30-day sentence, two years’ probation and a $250,000 fine.

[raydan]

The fact that he fought extradition for so long probably doesn't help his efforts to get back in. Wonder what would have happened if he had not pleaded guilty.

[Thanos]

Lying about one's identity when entering another nation and intending to reside there permanently are legitimate grounds for both deportation and denial of re-entry. I'd hope that they'd apply it equally to some politically radical wannabe cop-killer, even if his beliefs are shared by those who are now (unfortunately) the official Opposition party, as they would to war criminals. When the crime was committed and what's happened since are kind of irrelevant.