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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:54 pm
Brenda Brenda: DrCaleb DrCaleb: Brenda Brenda: Officially, you need a permit to have your house renovated... If you do your electrical yourself, you should have someone check it (been there done that...), same for gaspipes, framing, insulation, roofing, waterpipes, draining system...
No body DOES it, but it is required... And how many of those permit less renovations end up on a television show? Do inspectors actually come in and check that everything is to 'code', upon seeing a reno that has no recorded permit? No. It's about 'the war on drugs', and 'revenue'. Not about safety. Nope. They only come in when you call them... And, that's the way it should be.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:55 pm
I know it's about the war on drugs. And since I'm for legalization, I don't agree with inspecting homes to sniff out drugs. But for safety it makes sense to me. I admit I've never had an inspection I didn't pay for, and I admit in my foolish days I did some of my own wiring, even tho I know nothing about it. I still would have no problem with somebody checking my place for safety, it that's all it was about - which is what I said.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:57 pm
Brenda Brenda: Officially, you need a permit to have your house renovated... If you do your electrical yourself, you should have someone check it (been there done that...), same for gaspipes, framing, insulation, roofing, waterpipes, draining system...
No body DOES it, but it is required... They should, a $60 permit will save a huge problem with the insurance company down the road some day.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:04 pm
andyt andyt: I know it's about the war on drugs. And since I'm for legalization, I don't agree with inspecting homes to sniff out drugs. But for safety it makes sense to me. I admit I've never had an inspection I didn't pay for, and I admit in my foolish days I did some of my own wiring, even tho I know nothing about it. I still would have no problem with somebody checking my place for safety, it that's all it was about - which is what I said. andyt andyt: But creating a fire trap is everybody's concern - their neighbors and the firemen who might lose their lives dealing with the fire. Escpecially if it's in a multiple dwelling building. So I think inspectors should be able to come in and inspect, without a warrant. But no cops, no nit picking. andyt andyt: DrCaleb DrCaleb: If people are worried that a burning home can set adjoining units on fire, set them further apart like fire chiefs have been saying for decades.
If I die because the piles of garbage fell on me, that's my own damn fault. Let me die from my own stupidity, if I decide to do my own electrical wiring or gas pipe fitting. If I want to grow plants in my own home, that too is my own business.
But they're not set further apart, and we're not going to tear down all houses to accomplish what you say. And now you want to do your own gas pipe fitting too? Have you seen what happens with a gas explosion? It isn't just your business, that's the problem.I don't usually reply to points in posts that I agree with. Only where I disagree. If all you had said was that you agreed with voluntary home inspections, I would not have replied. But implying I'm doing my own shoddy gas fitting, coupled with the earlier affirmation you accepted inspections without warrants for safety reasons - deserved a reply.
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:08 pm
Curtman Curtman: Brenda Brenda: Officially, you need a permit to have your house renovated... If you do your electrical yourself, you should have someone check it (been there done that...), same for gaspipes, framing, insulation, roofing, waterpipes, draining system...
No body DOES it, but it is required... They should, a $60 permit will save a huge problem with the insurance company down the road some day. Yeah, if only it was a $60 permit, which it is not.
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andyt
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:08 pm
Well I was actually saying I agree with obligatory home inspections, as long as the purpose is strictly safety. And not nit picking stuff.
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:13 pm
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Brenda Brenda: Nope. They only come in when you call them... And, that's the way it should be. Depends. If you are a home owner renovating your own property, yes, I agree. If you are a (professional) landlord, there should be inspections without you calling them. Just safety inspections, that is. That means, that as a renter, you will have to put up with an inspection once a year...
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:14 pm
Brenda Brenda: Yeah, if only it was a $60 permit, which it is not. The electrical permit was. Looks like it's gone up to $80. Still a bargain versus being declined by your insurance company.
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Brenda
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:17 pm
Curtman Curtman: Brenda Brenda: Yeah, if only it was a $60 permit, which it is not. The electrical permit was. Looks like it's gone up to $80. Still a bargain versus being declined by your insurance company. The electrical is by what you need to have inspected. $80 for your whole house? I wish. I had the man come in 3 times now, every time it was over $100.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:27 pm
Brenda Brenda: The electrical is by what you need to have inspected. $80 for your whole house? I wish. I had the man come in 3 times now, every time it was over $100. We had knob-and-tube wiring to the second floor (4 circuits total), which needed to be replaced. That's what it cost for my permit, they called it a "Residential Alterations Permit" or something.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:43 pm
I'm 100% in agreement with Andy on this one. Seems to be happening a lot lately. 
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:56 pm
I don't understand why he let the inspector inside the house in the first place-this is what comes from trusting bureaucrats.
Make them get a search warrant, have a lawyer on hand and be sure there are video cameras running, post it all on youtube embarrass them good.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:26 pm
Barilko Barilko: I don't understand why he let the inspector inside the house in the first place-this is what comes from trusting bureaucrats.
Make them get a search warrant, have a lawyer on hand and be sure there are video cameras running, post it all on youtube embarrass them good. We have friends on mainland who turned away inspectors, only to have them break in at a later date. The RCMP didn't even open a file. They had just moved into a house that sat unoccupied for 6 months and the power spike was deemed suspicious enough to warrant B&E. 
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:43 pm
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind: Barilko Barilko: I don't understand why he let the inspector inside the house in the first place-this is what comes from trusting bureaucrats.
Make them get a search warrant, have a lawyer on hand and be sure there are video cameras running, post it all on youtube embarrass them good. We have friends on mainland who turned away inspectors, only to have them break in at a later date. The RCMP didn't even open a file. They had just moved into a house that sat unoccupied for 6 months and the power spike was deemed suspicious enough to warrant B&E.  Until they break into a real grow-op, and are never heard from again. 
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