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Posts: 14139
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:29 am
bootlegga bootlegga: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: To be fair, a good number of them that get pinched crossing in the western part of Canada are merely headed to Alaska for some hunting. They just forget there's this huge landmass between Alaska and the rest of the USA that doesn't have the same love affair with firearms. That may be the case with some of them, but when a guy gets nailed crossing the border at Windsor with gun(s) in his trunk, that's likely not the case. I might believe that if they're crossing in BC or AB, but not when it's down east. That's not entirely true. You'd be surprised how many Americans come to Ontario to hunt.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:35 am
Well if he's coming to Ontario to hunt, ie a legitimate persuit, what's stopping him from declaring his gun at the border?
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:40 am
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: bootlegga bootlegga: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: To be fair, a good number of them that get pinched crossing in the western part of Canada are merely headed to Alaska for some hunting. They just forget there's this huge landmass between Alaska and the rest of the USA that doesn't have the same love affair with firearms. That may be the case with some of them, but when a guy gets nailed crossing the border at Windsor with gun(s) in his trunk, that's likely not the case. I might believe that if they're crossing in BC or AB, but not when it's down east. That's not entirely true. You'd be surprised how many Americans come to Ontario to hunt. Well, my comment was related to yours about Americans going to Alaska to hunt - I'm skeptical that many American hunters drive through Ontario to get to Alaska.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:55 am
andyt andyt: Well if he's coming to Ontario to hunt, ie a legitimate persuit, what's stopping him from declaring his gun at the border? Go back and read my previous posts. I already explained it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:00 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: bootlegga bootlegga: That may be the case with some of them, but when a guy gets nailed crossing the border at Windsor with gun(s) in his trunk, that's likely not the case. I might believe that if they're crossing in BC or AB, but not when it's down east.
That's not entirely true. You'd be surprised how many Americans come to Ontario to hunt. Well, my comment was related to yours about Americans going to Alaska to hunt - I'm skeptical that many American hunters drive through Ontario to get to Alaska. And my original comment was about those being pinched at the BC border. You kinda changed the venue when you brought up Ontario, and I responded separately to that.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:20 pm
PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: bootlegga bootlegga: Well, my comment was related to yours about Americans going to Alaska to hunt - I'm skeptical that many American hunters drive through Ontario to get to Alaska. And my original comment was about those being pinched at the BC border. You kinda changed the venue when you brought up Ontario, and I responded separately to that. Misunderstanding on my part, oops...Who's on first? 
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:27 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: bootlegga bootlegga: Well, my comment was related to yours about Americans going to Alaska to hunt - I'm skeptical that many American hunters drive through Ontario to get to Alaska. And my original comment was about those being pinched at the BC border. You kinda changed the venue when you brought up Ontario, and I responded separately to that. Misunderstanding on my part, oops...Who's on first?  Yes
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:00 pm
andyt andyt: Zipperfish Zipperfish: WE should pick one and Marc Emery him. Send Canadian cops down to arrest him on US soil, drag his ass over the border, refuse to transfer him to serve time in the US and give him years of hard time in a shithole prison.  Right arm. Except the US wouldn't let us. We should increase inspection and if we find these fucks make them ineligible to enter Canada for life. Marc Emery didn't cross the border at all until he was extradited, let alone cross it with any seeds. This story is much more like this one: Kinder Surprise egg seized at U.S. border$1: A cross-border kerfuffle over a popular chocolate treat nearly cost a Winnipeg woman a $300 fine and saddled her with a bureaucratic headache. ... "It's just a chocolate egg," Bird said. "And they were making a big deal. They said 'if you were caught with this across the border you would get charged a $300 fine,'" she said. Maybe its tit-for-tat. We don't like their guns, and they're pissed about our seeds and chocolate eggs wreaking havoc on the streets of their cities.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:23 pm
Living in TX, with our gun laws. I'd expect that to happen... I'm pretty sure if they released names, some would be from TX. Granted down here, it's not uncommon to own a fire arm (what with out crime rate and all). I didn't think they'd be crossing the US/Canadian border with firearms... Pretty ridiculous, if you ask me. I don't understand why Americans can't follow certain laws when it comes to firearms, ESPECIALLY CROSSING A BORDER. But then again, I live in a state where you wait 72 hours, then can by all the guns you want at once. I've walked into a PAWN SHOP and have seen a Barret .50 Cal Sniper rifle... 
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:55 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: Standby... Bart will show up eventually and explain to us how wrong headed we are to exercise our laws. If he hasn't showed up by now I'm guessing that his Law and Order side fought his Gun Lovin' side to a standstill and he's now paralyzed.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:07 pm
Unsound Unsound: Gunnair Gunnair: Standby... Bart will show up eventually and explain to us how wrong headed we are to exercise our laws. If he hasn't showed up by now I'm guessing that his Law and Order side fought his Gun Lovin' side to a standstill and he's now paralyzed. Or this became a story because he was detained. Remember how openly admitted on here to smuggling weapons across the border...
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:46 pm
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind: Unsound Unsound: Gunnair Gunnair: Standby... Bart will show up eventually and explain to us how wrong headed we are to exercise our laws. If he hasn't showed up by now I'm guessing that his Law and Order side fought his Gun Lovin' side to a standstill and he's now paralyzed. Or this became a story because he was detained. Remember how openly admitted on here to smuggling weapons across the border... Yeah... law and order type that respects Canada's laws and values. As long as he doesn't complain about BC bud heading south.
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:26 pm
bootlegga bootlegga: PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9: bootlegga bootlegga: Well, my comment was related to yours about Americans going to Alaska to hunt - I'm skeptical that many American hunters drive through Ontario to get to Alaska. And my original comment was about those being pinched at the BC border. You kinda changed the venue when you brought up Ontario, and I responded separately to that. Misunderstanding on my part, oops...Who's on first?  lol no worries Although admittedly, my info involving the Windsor crossing is about 20 years old now, which is how long it's been since I lived there  so God knows what goes on at that border now. It always was a little hairy.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:10 am
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/toti ... story.html$1: Danny Cross, brother-in-law Hugh Barr and their wives were on their way to Alaska to celebrate Cross’s wedding anniversary when they were stopped at the Aldergrove-Huntington border on July 11.
Cross is 64 and from Texas; Barr is 70 and from California. ---- Vancouver lawyer Joel Whysall, who represents the pair, said the men are both retired and have no criminal records.
“These are people who have never been in trouble in their lives and they spent five days in the North Surrey Pre-Trial Centre with hardened criminals and drug addicts,” Whysall said.
“They were completely besides themselves and it took their wives five days to raise bail to get them out.”
The two were charged with a number of offences, including smuggling and possession of loaded, prohibited weapons, which carries a three-year minimum sentence.
“That charge is the major concern,” Whysall said. “It’s one of [Prime Minister Stephen] Harper’s minimum sentencing provisions which was never intended to deal with a situation like this.
“These are not hardened criminals and I’d be surprised if there was some nefarious gun smuggling thing going on here.”
Whysall said having firearms in Texas is a fact of life there.
“It seems they believe they have to have guns to protect their property,” he said. Law & Odour... it's all black or white.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:16 am
martin14 martin14: Anyone seen Bart Lately ? kidding  For the record, save for the rifles I donated to a particular law enforcement outfit up your way all of the guns that ever came into Canada with me are now back in the USA. I do not endorse smuggling, but I do encourage Canadians to insist upon their rights as free people. 
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