[ShepherdsDog]

yeah, but there wasn't a thing about a conspiracy to bring about the Fourth Reich, by a bunch of rich old euroweenies.

[bootlegga]

commanderkai commanderkai:

bootlegga bootlegga:

But, if you want to see Taiwan invaded and/or nuked, then go ahead and recognize them as an independent nation, because that is exactly what will happen.

You really, honestly think that China would invade and/or nuke a country protected by the United States?

Without a doubt. China has publicly stated that a number of items would trigger an invasion/attack - a motion of independence and Taiwanese nuclear capability were two of them.

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[ShepherdsDog]

the WW2 sniper movie with Rachel Weiss and Robocop? Gorky Park? Red Heat?

[Zipperfish]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

commanderkai commanderkai:

I never really read much after Debt of Honor, but his early books are all classics, in my eyes, and I can read Red Storm Rising over and over without complaint. I really think that Red Storm Rising movie or miniseries would probably be an epic piece of entertainment.

It would not be made today because 1) the Communists were the aggressors and 2) NATO was the good guys.

Hollyweird won't do jack sh*t anymore if it makes America look good.

Can you give me a list of movies where commies are the good guys and the West is not, in English?

Because I'm interested. I can name one, but that's it.

I can name lots of movies where the capitalists are the bad guys. The heroes stand up for egalitarian values like sharing and fairness--which is pretty commie.

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[xerxes]

I think Shep meant Enemy at the Gates; about the Russian sniper Vassili Zaitzev during the Battle of Stalingrad.

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[Jabberwalker]

There are SOME nasty rapacious capitalist bad guys out there, for real.

[see: Koch Brothers, Donald Trump, Conrad Black]

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[Zipperfish]

Public_Domain Public_Domain:

Yes, that is common as hell. It's a bit fascinating though that that continues as a movie trope. What enemies do most people really face in a day, in the West? Scared of terrorists even though we're probably more likely to die because of the discreet lies and expected nutritional worthlessness in mass produced foods. With people being driven into poverty so often with such harsh cold reasons does bring about feelings of just who is the modern villain in the average persons life. Plenty showing the government being evil hand in hand with corporation - that's generally compelling as well.

It's an old observation that the behaviour we recommend (sharing, being nice) are not the behaviours we reward (greed, corporate psychopaths). It makes it tough to bring up kids. I want to teach them to share and be nice, but I also know that they won't get far in life if they carry that attitude too far. So I teach them to compete adn win as well (in sports).

I probably would be a lot welathier if I were a little more ruthless. On the other hand, I'm not exactly starving and I'm a pretty happy person, generally speaking.

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[Thanos]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I probably would be a lot welathier if I were a little more ruthless. On the other hand, I'm not exactly starving and I'm a pretty happy person, generally speaking.

Happy, well-adjusted people like yourself generally aren't angry or sadistic enough to get pigeonholed into one of the despicable "isms". You're simply not depraved enough or haven't undergone the type of moral/mental collapse that leads you to believe that the entire world is your enemy/victim. That's why guys like you usually never become die-hard capitalists. Or staunch Nazis. Or committed Communists either.

Enemy At Gates, thankfully, wasn't a celebration of Communism either. Throughout the film, and the book too, the depravity and rottenness of the Commissars and other filthy fucking apparatchiks was on full display. From shooting their own retreating troops from a safe distance, to the disgraceful war crime and human rights atrocity of not allowing their own civilians to escape the battlefield, Stalinism was shown for what it was. For the moment, the Nazis were the greater evil, but the informed viewer and reader could easily see that Communism was accurately shown as the mental and emotional sickness it was and remains to this day.

[herbie]

I couldn't sleep the other day so I watched the remake of Red Dawn once the old lady went to bed.
What a piece of shit. I mean the original was a pure fucking rah rah propaganda piece of shit but at least we got to see Patrick Swayze die a nice slow death.
I do remember one show with James Belushi where the nun raping, teacher killing, priest torturing dictator was being overthrown by lefties.

[Thanos]

Salvador, directed by Oliver Stone in his typical ham-fisted manner. Fairly accurate depiction of what the 'freedom fighters' in Central America were getting up to though when the Reagan Administration opened up the floodgates of military and financial support to them.