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[N_Fiddledog]

Seriously? This is what you want to talk about?

[N_Fiddledog]

Two reports told us, what would turn out to be, thousands of underaged British girls were being groomed for sex and often brutalized by gangs of almost always Pakistani Muslim men. Police, officials and politicians ignored the cries for help and actively prevented any who tried to assist the victims or take the matter to the public from doing so.

Investigators reported officials' fears of racism as the cause.

Those are the facts.

[andyt]

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When I see you personally endorse a person or stance, it absolutely destroys any credibility I could ever have considered in the source. That's just my personal approach though.

I think it's really easy to suggest that "reverse racism" is to blame when before all else, the failure to assist these children came from deeply sexist beliefs. I think it's deeply off the mark. So we deal with the crippling issue of petty sexist white folks cowardly condoning injustice so that they may hang the minorities with their "fears" (that they feel safe voicing now, of course), then what?

What of the white teenagers who get raped by white people, and they get the same treatment as the girls raped by Pakistanis?

You think the police finding the 'bravery' required to finger the immigrants is going to deal with the actual issue: the unquestioned deeply-rooted consideration of teenage girls to be self-actualized sexual deviants aiming to destroy men's lives with rape accusations?

I think most of the cops and care workers didn't talk because they're ageist sexists, rather than they're "scared of being called racist". It's the most bogus pathetic excuse I really ever hear. "You can't speak the TRUTH without getting called racist these days!" I disagree, you absolutely can.

The fear of being called racist is so harsh, I guess generally treating teenage girls like shit is easier.

Your argument needs a couple of tweaks. It's not reverse racism, it's just fear of being labelled racist. It's a valid part of this problem.

But as you point out, the reason this fear was allowed to operate, is because of the classist, not just sexist attitudes of the whites. This is about class as much as sex. As I said earlier, if these were girls from solid middle or upper class homes (one nice thing about Britain is you can use those terms and nobody raises an eyebrow), no way fear of being labelled racist would have prevented the system from acting (it's not all about the cops) from the greater fear of the middle class outrage. The girls would not have been seen as deserving it or wanting it.

[BartSimpson]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

That's the thing about leftist governments: even the right wing nutjobs benefit.

I'm sure lack of capital punishment and subsidized university available to convicts was on Breiviks list of hated socialist policies that caused him to gun down legal wing party members in the first place.

The irony is that he knew how this would turn out when he planned the attack.

[N_Fiddledog]

andyt andyt:

But as you point out, the reason this fear was allowed to operate, is because of the classist, not just sexist attitudes of the whites.

Not exactly.

One of the reasons the progressives in charge and you right now could and can excuse the abuse in your minds is by saying to yourselves 'so what those little girls were just slags'.

The reason anybody who tried to help the girls were threatened, bribed, coerced, defunded or just bullied preventing them from coming forward to speak of the atrocities was the one given by the investigators who reviewed data and interviewed all involved. The Progressive council, administrators, and the police they managed did not want to let it out that almost all cases involved Pakistani Muslim men abusing underaged british girls in gangs. It was not politically correct.

To refuse to ignore the obvious in their nutty view was racist.

[N_Fiddledog]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

That's the thing about leftist governments: even the right wing nutjobs benefit.

I'm sure lack of capital punishment and subsidized university available to convicts was on Breiviks list of hated socialist policies that caused him to gun down legal wing party members in the first place.

The irony is that he knew how this would turn out when he planned the attack.

He did claim he planned for repercussions of his actions.

In prison he wrote a letter claiming he wrote of empathy with counter-jihadists like Spencer and Fjordman in his manifesto in order to distract attention from the ultra-nationalists he believed he actually represented.