[martin14]

BRAH BRAH:

Emperor Obama might as well have thrown in a years pass to Disneyland for the Gitmo Five.

Yup, this will be another "Thanks, Obama" moment.

[Gunnair]

BRAH BRAH:

Qatar allowing freed Taliban men to move freely in country: Gulf official

http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-allowing-freed-taliban-men-move-freely-country-130028784.html

White House Overrode Internal Objections to Taliban Prisoner Release


http://time.com/2818827/taliban-bergdahl-pow-release-objections-white-house/

Revealed: Bowe Bergdahl left letter telling comrades at Afghan base he was 'leaving to start new life and didn't want to fight for America' as Army announces he DOES face desertion charges

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2647397/Revealed-Bowe-Bergdahl-left-note-comrades-telling-leaving-start-new-life-Army-general-says-faces-desertion-charges.html
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Emperor Obama might as well have thrown in a years pass to Disneyland for the Gitmo Five.

Post aside, the Emperor Obama stuff sounds as douche inspired as King Harper.

[Gunnair]

martin14 martin14:

BRAH BRAH:

Emperor Obama might as well have thrown in a years pass to Disneyland for the Gitmo Five.

Yup, this will be another "Thanks, Obama" moment.

Yep.

[Freakinoldguy]

Goober911 Goober911:

If he is deemed mentally fit and the evidence is there, then a trial.
Edited to add links

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicel ... /awol7.htm

The commander has many options to choose from. The commander could impose Article 15 (nonjudicial punishment), possibly imposing a fine, or restriction, or correctional custody, or reduction in rank, and then allow the member to return to duty. The commander could impose an administrative discharge, usually with either a general or other-than-honorable conditions (OTHC) discharge characterization. The commander could impose Article 15 punishment, and then follow it up immediately with administrative discharge proceedings (thereby discharging the person with no stripes on his/her shoulder and/or imposing a fine so they are discharged with little or no money in their pocket). Or, the commander could refer the case to trial by court-martial.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicel ... /awol6.htm
Article 85 - Desertion. This is the most serious of the absentee offenses. Remember the primary difference between AWOL and desertion is intent to remain away from the military permanently.

(1) If a member deserted, but voluntarily returned to military control: Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, reduction to the lowest enlisted grade, and confinement for 2 years.

(2) If the member deserted and the desertion was terminated by apprehension: Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, reduction to the lowest enlisted grade, and confinement for 3 years.

(3) If the member deserted with the intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service (and example of this would be a member ordered to deploy to Iraq and then deserts to avoid the deployment): Dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, reduction to the lowest enlisted grade, and confinement for 5 years.

(4) If the member deserts during time of war: Death or such other punishment (such as life in prison) as a court-martial may direct.

Given that even the left keeps calling Afghanistan a "war" there should be no question that if the letter he allegedly left behind is true and the actions he took that night are factual then, Bergdhal did desert during a time of war and the punishment should reflect the crime with life in Fort Leavenworth being his reward for services rendered.

But, given that they even bothered to get him back only to have this PR disaster happen, there'll likely be no Court Martial so he can't be found guilty of desertion and he'll be quietly shuffled off to some obscure base to be released with no fanfare thus, preventing the current administration from getting anymore egg on their face.............and justice be damned.

[Thanos]

Being captive of the Taliban for five years should be punishment enough, but a court martial should be convened anyway just to get Bergdahl's actions on the official record even if no further punitive measures occur. Like I said earlier, "no man left behind" applies to everyone, not just for the ones we like and not for the ones we don't.

Wonder what the odds are of any charges being filed over the decade-long snipe hunt for WMD's in Iraq. The search for Bergdahl allegedly cost the lives of several soldiers who had to look for him. Be nice if the search in Iraq for something that turned out to be completely bogus that cost 5000 military and upwards of 200000 local lives would actually have some legal consequences someday for those who initiated it under complete falsified pretenses.

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

Being captive of the Taliban for five years should be punishment enough, but a court martial should be convened anyway just to get Bergdahl's actions on the official record even if no further punitive measures occur. Like I said earlier, "no man left behind" applies to everyone, not just for the ones we like and not for the ones we don't.

Wonder what the odds are of any charges being filed over the decade-long snipe hunt for WMD's in Iraq. The search for Bergdahl allegedly cost the lives of several soldiers who had to look for him. Be nice if the search in Iraq for something that turned out to be completely bogus that cost 5000 military and upwards of 200000 local lives would actually have some legal consequences someday for those who initiated it under complete falsified pretenses.

That would never happen since the people who sit at home in their nice warm offices and make these decisions aren't accountable if anything goes wrong. But if we're going that route you may want to include the current administration with the Benghazi debacle along with the Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Reagan and Clinton regimes who had innocent people die on their watch because of politics, bad intel, greed and just plain callousness.

Given that this has been happening since the beginning of time I can't see you having anymore luck getting the Bush administration tried than say the Johnson Administration.

[Freakinoldguy]

Thanos Thanos:

Being captive of the Taliban for five years should be punishment enough, but a court martial should be convened anyway just to get Bergdahl's actions on the official record even if no further punitive measures occur. Like I said earlier, "no man left behind" applies to everyone, not just for the ones we like and not for the ones we don't.

Wonder what the odds are of any charges being filed over the decade-long snipe hunt for WMD's in Iraq. The search for Bergdahl allegedly cost the lives of several soldiers who had to look for him. Be nice if the search in Iraq for something that turned out to be completely bogus that cost 5000 military and upwards of 200000 local lives would actually have some legal consequences someday for those who initiated it under complete falsified pretenses.

Was he really a prisoner or did he become a bargaining chip for them when he went over to their side? If he's guilty though he'd better hope that no more American Soldiers lose their lives on account of the 5 Taliban commanders who were released for him because, if he thinks his life is shit now how would it be if that happened.

[BRAH]

Gunnair Gunnair:

BRAH BRAH:

Qatar allowing freed Taliban men to move freely in country: Gulf official

http://news.yahoo.com/qatar-allowing-freed-taliban-men-move-freely-country-130028784.html

White House Overrode Internal Objections to Taliban Prisoner Release


http://time.com/2818827/taliban-bergdahl-pow-release-objections-white-house/

Revealed: Bowe Bergdahl left letter telling comrades at Afghan base he was 'leaving to start new life and didn't want to fight for America' as Army announces he DOES face desertion charges

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2647397/Revealed-Bowe-Bergdahl-left-note-comrades-telling-leaving-start-new-life-Army-general-says-faces-desertion-charges.html
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Emperor Obama might as well have thrown in a years pass to Disneyland for the Gitmo Five.

Post aside, the Emperor Obama stuff sounds as douche inspired as King Harper.

[ShepherdsDog]

Was he a POW or just a POS?

[Goober911]

1 thing to consider. If the Taliban knew they could not make a deal, how would it reflect on Obama if the Taliban did the old saw his head off and post the video on the Net?
Would the same that find him guilty before a trial then condemn Obama for letting this happen.
I can see the headlines and new reports now.

[BRAH]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Was he a POW or just a POS?

Probably both, one of the talking heads on the lame stream media alphabet networks mentioned this has a similarity to the plot of Homeland.

martin14 martin14:

BRAH BRAH:

Emperor Obama might as well have thrown in a years pass to Disneyland for the Gitmo Five.

Yup, this will be another "Thanks, Obama" moment.

When top Democrats like Dianne Feinstein (chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee) are pissed off at the Obama Administration it means this backfired and it's probably going to hurt Democrats in the mid term elections, so Democrats are privately saying "Thanks Obama!"

Groan: Hillary Clinton Was Against Bergdahl Deal With The Taliban Before She Was For It…
http://weaselzippers.us/188333-groan-hillary-clinton-was-against-bergdahl-deal-with-the-taliban-before-she-was-for-it/
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Now Hillary Clinton is distancing herself from this saying she wanted harder restrictions on the Gitmo Five's movements in Qatar etc which means she's going to run and Bill Clinton is going to be throwing Obama under the bus.

[N_Fiddledog]

Bergdahl seems to be in pretty good shape for 5 years a POW. I notice the Americans give him a pretty good frisk before they let him on the helicopter.

[xerxes]

[N_Fiddledog]

Yeah they hid the story of who Bergdahl really was pretty good in the early days. They wouldn't let the other soldiers in the unit talk.

They can talk now though, although judging by how fast the one I posted earlier disappeared YouTube might doing that thing they do and trying to see you don't hear them, so click quick.

[stratos]

Yep in 2009 the information about his desertion and other antics was not known.