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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:47 pm
 


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Yeah, but for you to bring up her TPB persona is not cool and has nothing to do with the trial.

It has everything to do with the trial and her testimony, the optics were bad. The media sure as hell didn't help ether, as someone said didn't they learn anything from the Duke lacrosse rape allegations?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:50 pm
 


Jeez, how thick can you get? What does have a role she played she has to do with anything?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:08 pm
 


Bump. The sisterhood is out to get her. They'll fail because she's too tough. Dragon queen Marie Heinen for PM! :twisted:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:40 pm
 


There's a strange psychology with some omen and abusive men. Women hang round, get beat up, go away, come back again. They hide it all, because of the shame. The supposed inconsistent behaviour of the women plaintiffs in this case was pretty typical of that. Not say Ghomeshi is guilty or innocent, just that I don't expect abused women--or men, or boys, for that matter--to necessarily act in a way that would appear rational to me.

Guy was always about five orders of magnitude too smarmy for me anyways.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:14 am
 


A really good interview with Ghomeshi's lawyer too. Pretty much sums up my views.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/jian ... -1.3511752


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:53 am
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
There's a strange psychology with some omen and abusive men. Women hang round, get beat up, go away, come back again. They hide it all, because of the shame. The supposed inconsistent behaviour of the women plaintiffs in this case was pretty typical of that. Not say Ghomeshi is guilty or innocent, just that I don't expect abused women--or men, or boys, for that matter--to necessarily act in a way that would appear rational to me.

Guy was always about five orders of magnitude too smarmy for me anyways.


These women weren't dependent or attached to Ghomeshi in any way. No kids, no financial dependence, no going back because they feared for their lives, the way women in abusive relationships do. All these women only came forward to file charges once the story hit the media. The judge said there may have been collusion between them. So they may have been quite happy to put up with his crap, while there was a chance he would further their career. Once he was on the out, they may have seen it as a way to get publicity by filing charges. Also I find it interesting all acted in the same way, none seemed to do what we would expect a person who has been assaulted to do.

This case is about consent. I think Ghomeshi is a sick freak, but if the women were into that, gave consent, is that a crime?

Probably the next case will be very different. This was in the workplace, there are witnesses, the victim filed a complaint with the union right away, didn't wait years nor sought him out privately. No violence involved, afaik, just sexual harrassment.

You yourself said you had no problem with "hate fucking." Don't know if someone who treats women like that can be all that down on Ghomeshi.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:07 am
 


They didn't consent prior to him pulling his sick stunts on them. The problem is that their behaviour afterwards showed that they weren't particularly bothered by what he did to them, at least not in the short term, by all three of them contacting him later to try to maintain a relationship with him. Their own actions wiped away any concerns over lack of consent. I bet the judge was way more pissed off than he let on. He did the responsible thing by keeping his cool but the wording of his statement showed he was probably just aching to throw in "collusion" and "conspiracy" at the complainants. Between this case and the UVA/Rolling Stone disaster there might be far-reaching effects for cops and prosecutors. There's already a a massive under-reporting and filing of charges in legit sexual assault cases, and here we have two high-profile cases (three if you toss in the debacle over the Patrick Kane non-incident) where the alleged victims were taken at their word and found out to be either delusional or engaged in an organized lie. I don't see what judge, no matter the type of case or what country it happened in, where he/she wouldn't be legally and ethically obligated to find a not-guilty verdict where the complainants obviously and openly engaged in a manufactured and co-ordinated collusion to "get him". I really wanted to believe them too, because that kind of creepy behaviour is a good indication that there might be something seriously wrong, even potentially dangerous, with someone like Ghomeshi who gets off on those kind of "games".


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:33 am
 


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While Lucy might have been a victim her actions after damaged her credibility.


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