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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:41 am
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Yeah getting run over by a neo nazi can probably cause a heart attack.


See now that's the problem with trying to come off as the expert about a video it's obvious you didn't actually watch.

To anybody who did watch it you come off as an idiot.

The possibility suggested by the girl doing the video was Heyer wasn't actually hit by the car.

What she says is the media lied, so we don't actually know all the facts yet.

It is a fact that the media presented at least partial lies. That much is shown to be beyond dispute.

For example I bet you thought this was Heather Heyer:

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Well it is and it isn't. That's the picture of Heather Heyer the media used. It's from years earlier. Charlottesville Heather didn't look anything like that.

The Heather Heyer who was at Charlottesville that day looked a little more like this.

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Not exactly though. We see the Heather of that day in the video. Add a few more years and some tonnage to even the fat Heather pic above. Give her dark hair and a butch haircut. In your mind's eye put her in a black T shirt. Remove the posed smile. Now you're starting to see Charlottesville Heather.

She was morbidly obese and she smoked. The video tries to make the case Heather was not the girl you see bouncing on top of the car. That's who the media would like you to believe was Heather. It wasn't. Heather was to the side. The suggestion is she was not hit. She freaked out witnessing the collision, burdening multiple layers of nicotine stressed fat and had a heart attack.

Now did the video make a good case for that? If it did it's worth knowing. I think it did. You'll never know, because you won't watch it. You will however offer your expertise on what you want to believe is in it. So go ahead clown boy do what you do. Be ridiculous.

However, if anybody is curious as to whether or not the video makes the case for something happening in Charlottesville other that what the media told you, here it is again:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKZqG1T07cs


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And the question the girl in the video leaves us with is what if they charged Fields with the wrong charge? What if this turns into another Freddie Gray situation where an overzealous DA wants to show off what a hot shot warrior for social justice he is and he laid a charge that requires intent. It may not be possible to prove intent. So what I'm thinking is what if Fields walks?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:19 am
 


The claim that she died of a heart attack appears to have originated in white supremacist sites like Daily Stormer and affiliated blogs and doesn't seem to exist anywhere outside of the nutjobosphere.

For someone who claims to not be defending neo nazis, you sure do a lot of defending neo nazis.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:13 am
 


Colin Kaepernick is like OJ Simpson, both were black when it was convenient.


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martin14 martin14:
Coach85 Coach85:
Side note....this is all a great distraction for the WH while Puerto Rico crumbles and Trump’s on Twitter acting like a child.



BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Might want to stop parroting the leftist propaganda now that the Democrat Governor of Puerto Rico has called bullshit on it.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/09/25 ... cane-irma/

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Puerto Rico's Governor Dismantles Media Attacks on Trump's Response to Hurricanes Irma and Maria

It was clear this weekend that the talking points had gone out to the media: President Trump's response to both Hurricane Irma earlier this month and Hurricane Maria last week was as disastrous as Bush's response to Hurricane Katrina.


In an interview with PBS Newshour this evening, Rosselló thanked the Trump administration for their prompt response:


JOHN YANG: Governor, are you getting all the aid you need or getting it fast enough from the states?

GOV. RICARDO ROSSELLO: First of all, we are very grateful for the administration. They have responded quickly.

The president has been very attentive to the situation, personally calling me several times. FEMA and the FEMA director have been here in Puerto Rico twice. As a matter of fact, they were here with us today, making sure that all the resources in FEMA were working in conjunction with the central government.

We have been working together. We have been getting results. The magnitude of this catastrophe is enormous. This is going to take a lot of help, a lot of collaboration. So, my call is to congressmen and congresswomen to take action quickly and conclusively with an aid package for Puerto Rico.

We are in the midst of potentially having a humanitarian crisis here in Puerto Rico which would translate to a humanitarian crisis in the United States. So, I call upon Congress to take action immediately. You know, Puerto Ricans are proud U.S. citizens.



This is a message that Gov. Rosselló and other Puerto Rican officials had been putting out all weekend.

On Saturday, the Associated Press reported:

Rossello and other officials praised the federal government for planning its response in detail before the storm hit, a contrast with what Puerto Rico has long seen as the neglect of 3.4 million Americans living in a territory without a vote in Congress or the electoral college.

"This is the first time we get this type of federal coordination," said Resident Commission Jenniffer Gonzalez, Puerto Rico's non-voting representative in Washington.


Looks like we have a tale of two Governor’s...

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/ ... d_ms_tw_mj


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And Martin, PJ Media isn’t the most reliable source:

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

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World Press Freedom Rank: USA 43/180

Notes: PJ Media (originally known as Pajamas Media) is an American online media company and operator of an eponymous conservative news, opinion and commentary collaborative blog that was founded in 2004. Pj Media has a right wing bias in reporting and content. PJ Media has also made some questionable claims.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:22 am
 


Coach85 Coach85:
And Martin, PJ Media isn’t the most reliable source:


That's irrelevant to the factual content of Governor Rossello's comments.

He said what he said regardless of who reported it.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Coach85 Coach85:
And Martin, PJ Media isn’t the most reliable source:


That's irrelevant to the factual content of Governor Rossello's comments.

He said what he said regardless of who reported it.


This time, the information presented was accurate. Just a note that it wasn't the most reliable source.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:04 am
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:
The claim that she died of a heart attack appears to have originated in white supremacist sites like Daily Stormer and affiliated blogs and doesn't seem to exist anywhere outside of the nutjobosphere.


No Moron, again you're offering expertise on something you didn't see. Heather Meyer's mother told the press she died of a heart attack. It's on video. It's in the video you won't watch.

Perhaps she was mistaken. I imagine you're searching for a 'gotcha' now. Cool. I'd like to see it. I'm interested in hearing the whole story. But if I don't hear from you on that I'll assume it doesn't exist.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:12 am
 


And everybody knows PJ Media is biased right, just like everybody knows the legacy mainstream media is biased left.

The only difference is PJ M doesn't pretend that's not the case.

Nevertheless there's Right and there's Left with the media. They're all biased. You can't get around it. All you can do is listen to it all and trust yourself or the critique of others to lead you to the best understanding.

Unfortunately the critique of the Left seems to be limited to "I don't like your poopy-head media."

Not helpful.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:15 am
 


Advertisers are now starting to withdraw from their support of the NFL.

Hardwick Clothing (men's suits) has cancelled their ads.

Check Into Cash has cancelled their ads.

And Anheuser-Busch (Budweiser) reportedly made some sort of filing with the SEC with regards to cancelling their ads.

I'm sure they won't be the last to cancel.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:08 am
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
To anybody who did watch it you come off as an idiot.



No one needs to not watch a video to know BF is an idiot.



PluggyRug PluggyRug:
:mrgreen:



Yeah, this has to be the funniest part.

The NFL doing all kinds of virtue signaling trying to get the support
of people who do NOT watch football.

Meanwhile, more vids of burning stuff and emptying stadiums will pile up.


Cannot understand how the NFL is being this stupid.
Maybe the brain damage also continues into the offices.


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Advertisers are now starting to withdraw from their support of the NFL.


More good news.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:24 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Advertisers are now starting to withdraw from their support of the NFL.

Hardwick Clothing (men's suits) has cancelled their ads.

Check Into Cash has cancelled their ads.

And Anheuser-Busch (Budweiser) reportedly made some sort of filing with the SEC with regards to cancelling their ads.

I'm sure they won't be the last to cancel.


Where do you get your news? AB isn’t pulling out, it’s a rumour going around.

The lack of advertising isn’t going to hurt the NFL. Just the companies pulling out.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:30 pm
 


"reportedly" - meaning I am not certain of the news right now because even though it came from Bloomberg they also said "reportedly".


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