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Posts: 33691
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:21 am
BeaverFever BeaverFever: The point I was making that I am a huge liar.
Reagan,Thatcher and Mulroney and the Commonwealth worked together to sanction SA
BeaverFever BeaverFever: Ronald Reagan. Brian Mulroney and Margaret Thatcher, all Conservatives, worked to see them kicked out of the commonwealth Pedal backwards even harder my boy. Maybe try posting facts first, rather than your wild fantasies. $1: I think everyone can see here to call someone a liar because You are a liar. Everyone can see that, because let's face it. No one is trying to defend you. No one here is saying you are right, about anything. You are off in your little world of lies and I hate Whitey. $1: to question my English. Of course English is my first language. I feel really sorry for the ESL students who were conned into wasting their money at some sketchy second-rate school learning English from an ignorant admitted racist. But I guess that’s why you teach over there and not here where there are standards. Are you sure ? Because your knowledge (or lack thereof) of past tense has failed you. Again. As usual. You are still not the better person you think you are. 
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:32 am
martin14 martin14: BeaverFever BeaverFever: The point I was making that I am a huge liar.
Reagan,Thatcher and Mulroney and the Commonwealth worked together to sanction SA
BeaverFever BeaverFever: Ronald Reagan. Brian Mulroney and Margaret Thatcher, all Conservatives, worked to see them kicked out of the commonwealth Pedal backwards even harder my boy. Maybe try posting facts first, rather than your wild fantasies. You’re so stupid you can’t even realize that the difference is irrelevant to this conversation, your constant harping on it just shows your pathetic desperation. How many post now you can’t even explain how your little correction changes the argument at all. $1: I think everyone can see here to call someone a liar because $1: You are a liar. YOU are the liar. And a coward still hiding from repeatedl questions of your falsified claims about BLM. PATHETIC. But that kind of cowardice and false bravado is typical of extreme conservatives like yourself. A Chickenshit to the core. How are your bonespurs? $1: No one here is saying you are right, about anything. You are off in your little world of lies and I hate Whitey. No I just hate you. Pretty sure the one guy who actually lived in SA disageed with you more than he did with me. I’ll let him speak for himself but I don’t think he disagreed with me at all. $1: Are you sure ? Because your knowledge (or lack thereof) of past tense has failed you. Past tense eh? You must have been fired in disgrace. Or maybe you resigned just before they kicked you out. Like South Africa did Must be why that point os so personal for you $1: You are still not the better person you think you are.  You always say that line because you don’t want to believe what an awful untalented unwanted worthless person you are. But it’s true accept it. That’s why you’re alone and nobody’s going to miss you when you’re gone. Except maybe a couple of cheap hookers who will need a week to replace a regular customer.
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:36 am
BeaverFever BeaverFever: No I just hate you. Such an emotional little bitch. 
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Posts: 15244
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:00 am
martin14 martin14: BeaverFever BeaverFever: No I just hate you. Such an emotional little bitch.  It’s not emotion, simply a fact that you’re not worthy of anything else. And you know it. Find that BLM hurricane rescue link yet, liar?
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:42 am
BeaverFever BeaverFever: No I just hate you. $1: It’s not emotion, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HatredHatred or hate is a deep and extreme emotional dislike, especially invoking feelings of anger or resentment. It can be directed against individuals, groups, entities, objects, behaviors, or ideas. Hatred is often associated with feelings of anger, disgust and a disposition towards hostility. Please BF, stop posting for a week, I just can't stop laughing. 
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:48 am
martin14 martin14: BeaverFever BeaverFever: No I just hate you. $1: It’s not emotion, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HatredHatred or hate is a deep and extreme emotional dislike, especially invoking feelings of anger or resentment. It can be directed against individuals, groups, entities, objects, behaviors, or ideas. Hatred is often associated with feelings of anger, disgust and a disposition towards hostility. Please BF, stop posting for a week, I just can't stop laughing.  Holy fuck you’re dim. Does everything need to spelled out for you? WITH YOU being hated is not emotion, it’s just a fact of your existence. Christ you’re so ignorant you can’t even understand when you’re being insulted! Just stunning. Epically stunning. Hey, find that BLM hurricane rescue link yet, liar?
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Posts: 12398
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:57 am
This article fits here... Canada lent a family $41 million to buy a luxury jet. Now the jet is missing.The Washington Post Alan Freeman 13 hrs ago $1: OTTAWA — If you spot a sleek Bombardier Global 6000 business jet sporting tail number ZS-OAK, Canada would love to hear from you.
The jet belonged to South Africa's notorious Gupta family, whose alleged corruption helped trigger the scandals that recently forced President Jacob Zuma out of office. But the Guptas bought the plane with help from a $41 million loan from Export Development Canada, or EDC, Canada's state-owned export-import bank.
EDC was helping Bombardier Inc., the Canadian aerospace firm, land the jet sale. But that turns out to have been a poor bet: EDC now says the family defaulted on the loan in October and still owes the bank $27 million.
And with an arrest warrant outstanding for Ajay Gupta, one of three brothers in the family, there are other worries, too. “There is a very real concern that the aircraft may be used to escape justice or for some unlawful means,” wrote EDC in a recent application to a South African court seeking permission to ground the jet.
But EDC first has to find the plane; the Guptas made the plane's location data private after EDC sought the jet's exact whereabouts in a court filing. The disappearance of the plane is noted on FlightAware, a website that allows the public to track the location of planes around the world. “This aircraft (ZS-OAK) is not available for public tracking per request from the owner/operator,” the site says. The plane has been spotted in recent weeks at airports in India, Russia and Dubai.
Ehsan Monfared, a Toronto aviation lawyer, says that the case is unusual. Most people or entities who buy business jets of that size and value don’t have credit issues, and banks like EDC make sure they’re well protected. EDC, for its part, insists it performed due diligence on the Guptas.
Phil Taylor, a spokesman for EDC, said that the bank’s motion seeking to ground the aircraft is due to be heard in Johannesburg on March 6, but he declined to comment further. A separate court case is also underway in Britain. An effort to contact the Guptas through their London law firm was not successful.
It's certainly an embarrassing incident for the bank. But Karyn Keenan, the director of Above Ground, a Canadian human-rights and development nonprofit, finds it ironic that EDC is now worried about risking its reputation when it should have known of the corruption allegations against the Guptas that were circulating in South Africa at the time of the loan deal.
“This loan should never have been made,” she told The Washington Post. “Everybody in South Africa knew who the Guptas were. They had been investigated by South African authorities.”
The good news for EDC is that it's likely to get the plane back eventually. Under an international agreement called the Cape Town Treaty, Monfared said, lenders have the right to seize a plane in any country that's part of the pact. “I don’t think the Canadian taxpayer is going to get bilked, unless the aircraft has been otherwise disposed of,” he said. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...id=mailsignoutAs a tax payer, I feel we should negotiate with the Guptas. You take Trudeau, keep the plane, no hard feelings.
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:23 am
PluggyRug PluggyRug: As a tax payer, I feel we should negotiate with the Guptas. You take Trudeau, keep the plane, no hard feelings. Just make sure to put him on a farm. 
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:35 am
martin14 martin14: PluggyRug PluggyRug: As a tax payer, I feel we should negotiate with the Guptas. You take Trudeau, keep the plane, no hard feelings. Just make sure to put him on a farm.  Who would want to breed more of those?
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:43 am
PluggyRug PluggyRug: This article fits here... Canada lent a family $41 million to buy a luxury jet. Now the jet is missing.The Washington Post Alan Freeman 13 hrs ago $1: OTTAWA — If you spot a sleek Bombardier Global 6000 business jet sporting tail number ZS-OAK, Canada would love to hear from you.
The jet belonged to South Africa's notorious Gupta family, whose alleged corruption helped trigger the scandals that recently forced President Jacob Zuma out of office. But the Guptas bought the plane with help from a $41 million loan from Export Development Canada, or EDC, Canada's state-owned export-import bank.
EDC was helping Bombardier Inc., the Canadian aerospace firm, land the jet sale. But that turns out to have been a poor bet: EDC now says the family defaulted on the loan in October and still owes the bank $27 million.
And with an arrest warrant outstanding for Ajay Gupta, one of three brothers in the family, there are other worries, too. “There is a very real concern that the aircraft may be used to escape justice or for some unlawful means,” wrote EDC in a recent application to a South African court seeking permission to ground the jet.
But EDC first has to find the plane; the Guptas made the plane's location data private after EDC sought the jet's exact whereabouts in a court filing. The disappearance of the plane is noted on FlightAware, a website that allows the public to track the location of planes around the world. “This aircraft (ZS-OAK) is not available for public tracking per request from the owner/operator,” the site says. The plane has been spotted in recent weeks at airports in India, Russia and Dubai.
Ehsan Monfared, a Toronto aviation lawyer, says that the case is unusual. Most people or entities who buy business jets of that size and value don’t have credit issues, and banks like EDC make sure they’re well protected. EDC, for its part, insists it performed due diligence on the Guptas.
Phil Taylor, a spokesman for EDC, said that the bank’s motion seeking to ground the aircraft is due to be heard in Johannesburg on March 6, but he declined to comment further. A separate court case is also underway in Britain. An effort to contact the Guptas through their London law firm was not successful.
It's certainly an embarrassing incident for the bank. But Karyn Keenan, the director of Above Ground, a Canadian human-rights and development nonprofit, finds it ironic that EDC is now worried about risking its reputation when it should have known of the corruption allegations against the Guptas that were circulating in South Africa at the time of the loan deal.
“This loan should never have been made,” she told The Washington Post. “Everybody in South Africa knew who the Guptas were. They had been investigated by South African authorities.”
The good news for EDC is that it's likely to get the plane back eventually. Under an international agreement called the Cape Town Treaty, Monfared said, lenders have the right to seize a plane in any country that's part of the pact. “I don’t think the Canadian taxpayer is going to get bilked, unless the aircraft has been otherwise disposed of,” he said. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...id=mailsignoutAs a tax payer, I feel we should negotiate with the Guptas. You take Trudeau, keep the plane, no hard feelings. Trying to start a War?
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Posts: 65472
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:31 am
Just curious...is anyone proposing that Canada should take in racially oppressed white refugees from South Africa's apartheid state?
I know I will be writing to the White Hut today to agitate for white South Africans to receive refugee status in the USA.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:43 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Just curious...is anyone proposing that Canada should take in racially oppressed white refugees from South Africa's apartheid state?
I know I will be writing to the White Hut today to agitate for white South Africans to receive refugee status in the USA. We do, but the applicants, like many others based on the same reasons, aren't always accepted. $1: Country of Alleged Persecution Total finalizations Accepted % accepted Rejected Abandoned
South Africa 19 14 74% 5 0
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-s- ... 0#inCanadahttp://nationalpost.com/news/canada/whi ... nformation
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:16 am
Most of the South Africans I run into here are doctors.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:27 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Most of the South Africans I run into here are doctors. Interesting, around the Sacramento area most of the South Africans I run into are farmers. Almost uniformly they're industrious, hard working people. I've also noticed that Princess Cruises employs a large number of white South Africans.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:05 am
ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog: Most of the South Africans I run into here are doctors. No shit, I'm surprised we haven't created a doctor shortage in South Africa. They don't seem to mind the wide open spaces, whereas UBC can crank out 1,000 doctors and 999 think the other side of Commercial Drive is 'exile in the boonies'...
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