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Posts: 1211
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:25 pm
nice clip  Let's all admit it, homosexuality aside, all of Harper's crew are a bunch of fascist, rascist myopic bigots - sort of like most Albertans.
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Posts: 65472
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:38 pm
*Not that I agree with his opinions* but it is a serious mistake for him to apologize. He'd be better off saying that he meant it because then the matter would disappear after a while.
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Posts: 65472
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:48 pm
djakeydd djakeydd: nice clip  Let's all admit it, homosexuality aside, all of Harper's crew are a bunch of fascist, rascist myopic bigots - sort of like most Albertans.
Harper is not a fascist.
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Mustang1
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Posts: 7594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:51 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: mixedfarmer mixedfarmer: To bad adolf hitler wasnt caught saying stupid things and kicked out before 20 million people or so died Indeed.. too bad others excaped their past: $1: In the years before the end of the Second World War, the rumours were shouting, the father of our constitution was a proto-fascist, an anti-Semitic separatist busily plotting ways to take Quebec out of Canada and out of the anti-Fascist alliance fighting Nazi Germany. http://www.dooneyscafe.com/content/view/466/30/
What do you care? Didn't you previously write, "17 years ago...How desperate can you get. Next you're going to be digging up grade school report cards and high school pictures. "
Practice what you preach or at least try and maintain some semblance of consistency.
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:57 pm
Should Trudeau have been asked to resign for saying racist things in his past?
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Mustang1
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Posts: 7594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:01 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Should Trudeau have been asked to resign for saying racist things in his past?
According to your hypocritical posts, no, because it was longer than 17 year prior to his Prime Ministerial tenure.
So... in trying to traverse you muddled logic, if its about a conservative making socially regressive comments, its subject to a statue of limitations, but if its about Trudeau or a Liberal, it's fair game forever. You got caught with a double standard. Get over it.
Typical unenlightened partisan junk. Shuffle on.
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hwacker
CKA Uber
Posts: 10896
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:03 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: ridenrain ridenrain: Should Trudeau have been asked to resign for saying racist things in his past? According to your hypocritical posts, no, because it was longer than 17 year prior to his Prime Ministerial tenure. So... in trying to traverse you muddled logic, if its about a conservative making socially regressive comments, its subject to a statue of limitations, but if its about Trudeau or a Liberal, it's fair game forever. You got caught with a double standard. Get over it. Typical unenlightened partisan junk. Shuffle on.
Well thank god PET is dead.
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hwacker
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Posts: 10896
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:05 pm
djakeydd djakeydd: nice clip  Let's all admit it, homosexuality aside, all of Harper's crew are a bunch of fascist, rascist myopic bigots - sort of like most Albertans.
Let me guess, downtown Toronto, Church street ?
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Posts: 42160
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:07 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: djakeydd djakeydd: nice clip  Let's all admit it, homosexuality aside, all of Harper's crew are a bunch of fascist, rascist myopic bigots - sort of like most Albertans. Harper is not a fascist.
Bart,
The guy is a bona fide nut ball foiler, who's obviously using a word he doesn't understand. Why worry about what he thinks?
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Posts: 42160
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:10 pm
hwacker hwacker: djakeydd djakeydd: nice clip  Let's all admit it, homosexuality aside, all of Harper's crew are a bunch of fascist, rascist myopic bigots - sort of like most Albertans. Let me guess, downtown Toronto, Church street ?
more likely...605 - 21 Sussex Street, Toronto
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:24 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: ridenrain ridenrain: Should Trudeau have been asked to resign for saying racist things in his past? According to your hypocritical posts, no, because it was longer than 17 year prior to his Prime Ministerial tenure. So... in trying to traverse you muddled logic, if its about a conservative making socially regressive comments, its subject to a statue of limitations, but if its about Trudeau or a Liberal, it's fair game forever. You got caught with a double standard. Get over it. Typical unenlightened partisan junk. Shuffle on.
No, you pompous buffoon.
Read my previous posts.
I have no time for you’re games.
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Mustang1
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 7594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:29 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Mustang1 Mustang1: ridenrain ridenrain: Should Trudeau have been asked to resign for saying racist things in his past? According to your hypocritical posts, no, because it was longer than 17 year prior to his Prime Ministerial tenure. So... in trying to traverse you muddled logic, if its about a conservative making socially regressive comments, its subject to a statue of limitations, but if its about Trudeau or a Liberal, it's fair game forever. You got caught with a double standard. Get over it. Typical unenlightened partisan junk. Shuffle on. No, you pompous buffoon. Read my previous posts. I have no time for you’re games.
Oops...our resident mouth-breather has been caught playing his dumb ass partisan games. Go cry somewhere else, suck, your little foul up is here for all to see and now you're coming across like a petulant wuss.
Just to sum up: ridendumb whines that bigoted comments that are uttered by conservatives should somehow be subjected to a nonsensical statue of limitations, but in the SAME thread, he makes reference to Truduea's questionable intellectual sojourns before his was Prime Minister. He got caught being a partisan hack. And now he's trying to worm his way out. Nope.
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:34 pm
Did I say that Trudeau should have been removed for his past opinions?
I have many problems with the Trudeau government but not with the guy himself.
In a way, I’m defending the right of the man to think whatever it was he did.
Just as the government has no place in the bedrooms, it definitely has no place in our hearts or minds either.
Please tell me exactly how I’m being hypocritical here.
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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:37 pm
Right there on page #2:
$1: Any of our politicians may be racist, homophobic or homosexual, or whatever and we may never know it. We can guess at their personal lives and feelings but we'll never really know these people. In the end, it really dosen't matter because I don't need to know them to trust them to do the right thing, say the right things and act the part I demand in a public figure.
If they can't understand the difference between what's acceptable in public and what's allowed in private then they probably lack the diciplen to do the job in the first place.
This guy got caught being stupid and he'll probably loose his seat and nomination. That's public life. Look at King Ralf for example. He was a big racist drunk but people kept electing him.. go figure.
Nice name calling there, tough guy
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Mustang1
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 7594
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:46 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: Did I say that Trudeau should have been removed for his past opinions? I have many problems with the Trudeau government but not with the guy himself. In a way, I’m defending the right of the man to think whatever it was he did. Just as the government has no place in the bedrooms, it definitely has no place in our hearts or minds either.
Please tell me exactly how I’m being hypocritical here.
<sigh> Initially you wrote, "17 years ago...How desperate can you get. Next you're going to be digging up grade school report cards and high school pictures. "
This was obviously a condemnation of calling for accountability. You clearly stated that this was "desperate" and then followed it up with an argumentative fallacy about "digging up grade school report cards" all in a blatant rejection of calls of bigotry and homophobia.
THEN, when references were made to holding other historical figures accountable for pre-political comments, you evoked Trudeau as another example. Why? If you followed your original train of logic, you should have condemned the original comment about Hitler as being "desperate" (just like your first foray onto the thread) and made no reference to Trudeau as this clearly ran counter to your thinking. If it didn't matter, why bring it up?
Nice try, but you got caught being a cheap partisan hack. You railed against the original controversy but failed to maintain that same view when it applied to Trudeau. It's a hypocritical stance. Your meager attempts to weasel out of it won't alter it. You got caught pushing an agenda. Deal with it.
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