[kenmore]

rockindel1 rockindel1:

hooray to the biggest bigots in north america "the french canadians"

And some of the biggest assholes live in the west...

[Lemmy]

rockindel1 rockindel1:

hooray to the biggest bigots in north america "the french canadians"

Isn't the definition of bigotry to ascribe perceived characteristics of members of a group to all members of that group?

[MacDonaill]

ASLplease ASLplease:

When I graduated from high school, I couldn't apply to University of Calgary until I qualified for mature student status. You know why? Because I didn't have my french 30. I think this qualifies as jamming french down my throat.

I have other examples that are mostly annoying, like Chinese f#cking Noodles where the entire case is placed on the shelf with the french side facing out. FFS, if I can't read the english side of a chinese noodle package in Alberta, then I damn well expect to be looking at chinese.

You're right. The Quebec government put those Chinese noodles on the shelves like that on purpose! Right after they went over to the University of Calgary to force them to adopt an admission policy of French literacy. It's a conspiracy against students with poor study skills who fail French class and are forced to eat Ramen noodles for the rest of their lives.

[Brenda]

I love the lack of sense of humour here

[ASLplease]

And, WTF is with the Arret signs in Banff? There's more f#cking Japanese drivers in Banff than Quebecers. Where is the safety in that?

[zhabodav]

I see this as an anti-francophone move. This is what I believe may happen if the PQ gets its way.

- PQ expands their culture protection policies to youngsters and tries to incorporate Cegep (colleges) into the same deal.
- There will be a rise in the unilingual (french) population.
- Those who want to learn English will be forbidden to go to an anglophone institution until University.
- PQ gains more power from the population now that there are more unilinguals (french).
- PQ seperates (if canada allows it to).

Considering the fact that Quebec is surrounded by anglophone countries and provinces. Also considering that most ethical business standards are set by progressive grass roots movements from the United States, England, and Canada. The following might happen.

- Biligualism gains more importance in the Quebec Job market.
- Bilingual jobs begin to pay more because there are much less bilinguals than unilinguals.
- Bilingualism prospers
- More Unilinguals will be employed in jobs with minimum wage / low pay
- Quebec economy shrinks as a result from high taxes and large unemployment (from people sitting on welfare and working under the table).

PQ successfully protects the French culture by destroying a beautiful province from within.

[EyeBrock]

It's just more of the same.

One 'special interest' rule for the Quebecois and Natives, another less 'special' set of rules for the rest of us.

It seems to be the Canadian way. The Quebecois and Natives can do what they want and no politician, Liberal or Tory, has the balls to stand up to either of them.

[MacDonaill]

If CÉGEP were entirely paid for by the provincial government, I could see this bill making it. But the fact is, you have to pay to go to CÉGEP. Not a lot, but there are fees involved. Therefore, the choice of which CÉGEP to go to has to rest with the student.

[MacDonaill]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

It's just more of the same.

One 'special interest' rule for the Quebecois and Natives, another less 'special' set of rules for the rest of us.

It seems to be the Canadian way. The Quebecois and Natives can do what they want and no politician, Liberal or Tory, has the balls to stand up to either of them.

This is in no way a set of special rules for the Québécois.

How Québec decides to organise its own education system is its own business. Education is an entirely provincial responsibility, and thus this bill, if it should see the light of day, is part of Québec's internal affairs.

If the bill is challenged and deemed unconstitutional, it will be struck down by a federal court, and that's pretty much all the federal government can have to do with it. The same is true for every other province. There are no special considerations.

[CanadianJeff]

Lemmy Lemmy:

rockindel1 rockindel1:

hooray to the biggest bigots in north america "the french canadians"

Isn't the definition of bigotry to ascribe perceived characteristics of members of a group to all members of that group?

It more refers to intolerance of those different from yourself. A better example would likely be the westboro baptist church.

The word your looking for is stereotyping. Such as saying that all Natives don't work and are on welfare.

[ASLplease]

zhabodav zhabodav:

I see this as an anti-francophone move. This is what I believe may happen if the PQ gets its way.

- PQ expands their culture protection policies to youngsters and tries to incorporate Cegep (colleges) into the same deal.
- There will be a rise in the unilingual (french) population.
- Those who want to learn English will be forbidden to go to an anglophone institution until University.
- PQ gains more power from the population now that there are more unilinguals (french).
- PQ seperates (if canada allows it to).

Considering the fact that Quebec is surrounded by anglophone countries and provinces. Also considering that most ethical business standards are set by progressive grass roots movements from the United States, England, and Canada. The following might happen.

- Biligualism gains more importance in the Quebec Job market.
- Bilingual jobs begin to pay more because there are much less bilinguals than unilinguals.
- Bilingualism prospers
- More Unilinguals will be employed in jobs with minimum wage / low pay
- Quebec economy shrinks as a result from high taxes and large unemployment (from people sitting on welfare and working under the table).

PQ successfully protects the French culture by destroying a beautiful province from within.

And all this over a misdirected feeling of inferiority. Don't they know that even in the New Orleans (with the US melting pot) that french is alive and doing well?

[zhabodav]

Maybe they are jealous they didn't get booted to Louisiana long ago with their relatives. They would probably be living a more enjoyable, less racist, and more successful lives. Thats the interesting thing about the US. There is no set language and thus language flows with business. Businesses cater and care for their multi cultural customers.

[MacDonaill]

ASLplease ASLplease:

And all this over a misdirected feeling of inferiority. Don't they know that even in the New Orleans (with the US melting pot) that french is alive and doing well?

What a load of shit. New Orleans is an English-speaking city with a French history, but it is far from being a Francophone city. French in Louisiana is on a respirator, and what's left of it ain't that pretty either.

[EyeBrock]

MacDonaill MacDonaill:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

It's just more of the same.

One 'special interest' rule for the Quebecois and Natives, another less 'special' set of rules for the rest of us.

It seems to be the Canadian way. The Quebecois and Natives can do what they want and no politician, Liberal or Tory, has the balls to stand up to either of them.

This is in no way a set of special rules for the Québécois.

How Québec decides to organise its own education system is its own business. Education is an entirely provincial responsibility, and thus this bill, if it should see the light of day, is part of Québec's internal affairs.

If the bill is challenged and deemed unconstitutional, it will be struck down by a federal court, and that's pretty much all the federal government can have to do with it. The same is true for every other province. There are no special considerations.

Isn't everything in Quebec an entirely provincial responsibility?

Quebec Immigration wasn't part of the BNA but Quebec gets to say who it lets in.

The Fete National, the so-called 'National Assembly'. All very 'provincial' even if it does sound like you guys are pretending to be a country.

Everything is a provincial responsibilty in Quebec except maybe paying it's bills.

The rest of Canada does give $16.6 billion a year to free Quebec from it's fiscal reponsibilities.

Vive la Quebec Libre.

[MacDonaill]

zhabodav zhabodav:

Maybe they are jealous they didn't get booted to Louisiana long ago with their relatives. They would probably be living a more enjoyable, less racist, and more successful lives.

Quebec's GDP is about 58% more than that of Louisiana, and per capita the average Quebecker earns more than the average Louisianian.