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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:10 am
 


Title: HMCS Toronto intercepts massive haul of heroin in Indian Ocean
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Strutz
Date: 2014-01-19 10:43:22
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:10 am
 


Well Done HMCS Toronto. This is definately worthy of a big Bravo Zulu. PDT_Armataz_01_34





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That must be all of it this time.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:04 am
 


Saw this in the local news a week back I think, meant to post it but forgot :oops:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:19 am
 


Curtman Curtman:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:


ROTFL

That must be all of it this time.


Bothers you that they're doing their job, does it? :P

Don't worry, there's tons more heroin out there left for consumption by the poor misunderstood, innocent victims who, just made a bad choice in life. :roll:





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Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Curtman Curtman:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:


ROTFL

That must be all of it this time.


Bothers you that they're doing their job, does it? :P

Don't worry, there's tons more heroin out there left for consumption by the poor misunderstood, innocent victims who, just made a bad choice in life. :roll:


Why would it bother me? It's a waste of resources like you say.

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"Alternative livelihoods" is the 'carrot' corollary to eradication's 'stick'. It is the attempt to attract farmers away from poppy cultivation, provide incentives towards different economic options and create rural environments where desperate farmers no longer need to depend on opium for survival. For many donors and planners it is the panacea that will solve the narcotics crisis in Afghanistan, but as non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and government agencies involved in alternative livelihood schemes testify, successes are very rare. "We know it's bad to grow poppy but we have to do it," a farmer in northeast Afghanistan told IRIN. "There are no jobs and wheat is worthless. If the government gives us food and jobs then we will stop doing this."

The root cause of the swift spread of poppy cultivation in Afghanistan is primarily poverty and opportunism. Rural areas often lack all basic services and functioning infrastructure, while income-generating opportunities are scarce. According to those implementing programmes, alternative livelihood projects can only work as part of a wider multi-sector alternative development package, requiring massive investment and commitment throughout Afghanistan. Anthony Fitz-Herbert, senior advisor on alternative livelihoods to the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development, told IRIN: "There is no magic bullet, alternative livelihoods is not a rabbit that can be pulled out of a hat. It requires long-term holistic rural development and nothing less".


Prohibition + Poverty = Violence.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:45 am
 


Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Curtman Curtman:
BeaverFever BeaverFever:


ROTFL

That must be all of it this time.


Bothers you that they're doing their job, does it? :P

Don't worry, there's tons more heroin out there left for consumption by the poor misunderstood, innocent victims who, just made a bad choice in life. :roll:


It maybe their current assignment but this is most certainly not their job.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:12 am
 


A big congrats and a job well done to the gallant crew of the HMCS TORONTO!!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:52 am
 


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The Forces say the narcotics were catalogued and then disposed of.


In other news fish caught in the same area has increased in price to $20/gram.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:57 am
 


Curtman Curtman:
Prohibition + Poverty = Violence.


Then you want guns legalized because if poor people can't have guns they'll get violent? [huh]





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MeganC MeganC:
Curtman Curtman:
Prohibition + Poverty = Violence.


Then you want guns legalized because if poor people can't have guns they'll get violent? [huh]


Did guns become illegal? When did that happen?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:41 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:

Why would it bother me? It's a waste of resources like you say.

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"Alternative livelihoods" is the 'carrot' corollary to eradication's 'stick'. It is the attempt to attract farmers away from poppy cultivation, provide incentives towards different economic options and create rural environments where desperate farmers no longer need to depend on opium for survival. For many donors and planners it is the panacea that will solve the narcotics crisis in Afghanistan, but as non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and government agencies involved in alternative livelihood schemes testify, successes are very rare. "We know it's bad to grow poppy but we have to do it," a farmer in northeast Afghanistan told IRIN. "There are no jobs and wheat is worthless. If the government gives us food and jobs then we will stop doing this."

The root cause of the swift spread of poppy cultivation in Afghanistan is primarily poverty and opportunism. Rural areas often lack all basic services and functioning infrastructure, while income-generating opportunities are scarce. According to those implementing programmes, alternative livelihood projects can only work as part of a wider multi-sector alternative development package, requiring massive investment and commitment throughout Afghanistan. Anthony Fitz-Herbert, senior advisor on alternative livelihoods to the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development, told IRIN: "There is no magic bullet, alternative livelihoods is not a rabbit that can be pulled out of a hat. It requires long-term holistic rural development and nothing less".


Prohibition + Poverty = Violence.


It isn't a waste of resources if it keeps one person from becoming addicted to heroin or causes a shortage that makes one addict seeks out treatment, is it?

Gee, what a simplistic approach to a complex problem. What he forgot to mention or apparently take into account is that the Farmers livelihood is being controlled by the Taliban and even if this gentleman figured out how to get them to grow other crops for the same profit they wouldn't be allowed to and still keep a head on their shoulders. But hey it sounds good.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:03 pm
 


Headstrong Headstrong:
It maybe their current assignment but this is most certainly not their job.


My apologies. Bad choice of words especially since it's "Not a Job, It's an adventure" and just because the definition of job is:


noun
1.
a piece of work, especially a specific task done as part of the routine of one's occupation or for an agreed price:

Doesn't mean they should be denying poor disadvantaged North American Drug addicts of their personal enjoyment especially when they could be doing much more important things like shoveling out the City of Toronto from their latest snowfall. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:28 pm
 


Curtman Curtman:
MeganC MeganC:
Curtman Curtman:
Prohibition + Poverty = Violence.


Then you want guns legalized because if poor people can't have guns they'll get violent? [huh]


Did guns become illegal? When did that happen?


Guns are illegal in Australia, New Zealand, and the UK and seems to me there's plenty of violence in those places.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:02 pm
 


You`re incorrect. They aren`t illegal in the countries you`ve mentioned. Ownership is limited due to responsible gun laws.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/

breaks everything down quite well into estimated illicit weapons, registered rifles, handguns and shotguns


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