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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:00 am
 


Title: Purchase of new armoured army vehicles on hold
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Date: 2010-01-20 22:13:06
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:00 am
 


Somehow I knew this was coming, gotta love our government. I know the military does.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:20 am
 


Cheapskates.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:54 pm
 


$1:
The news about the CCV follows a review that will see the Defence Department finding $423 million in savings to be shifted to priority projects. Those savings have to be found by the end of March.

As a result, the navy has cut training for its reserve forces and will reduce infrastructure maintenance and repairs while the air force will scale back on non-operational training and cut some of its flying time as well as non-essential repairs.

The army is also reducing planned activities and training for soldiers not currently preparing for operations, including non-essential exercises and adventure training.


Another important program 'postponed' (translation we might buy it in a decade or two) as well as cuts in training and maintenance. So much for the notion that the Conservatives are better for the CF than the Liberals.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:11 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
So much for the notion that the Conservatives are better for the CF than the Liberals.


The Liberals have only themselves to blame for that one.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:44 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
bootlegga bootlegga:
So much for the notion that the Conservatives are better for the CF than the Liberals.


The Liberals have only themselves to blame for that one.


They did what was necessary.


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saturn_656 saturn_656:
bootlegga bootlegga:
So much for the notion that the Conservatives are better for the CF than the Liberals.


The Liberals have only themselves to blame for that one.


Sure they have someone to blame, a $30 billion deficit inherited from Mulroney.

Just like the deficit the Liberals will inherit from Harper & Deficit Jim whenever they get re-elected... :P


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sandorski sandorski:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
bootlegga bootlegga:
So much for the notion that the Conservatives are better for the CF than the Liberals.


The Liberals have only themselves to blame for that one.


They did what was necessary.


So budget and capability slashing combined with the increased operational tempo of the CF in the 90's was necessary?

Trudeau's downsizing of the CF in the middle of the Cold War was necessary?

I'm sure you're going to explain why, this I must hear.


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bootlegga bootlegga:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
bootlegga bootlegga:
So much for the notion that the Conservatives are better for the CF than the Liberals.


The Liberals have only themselves to blame for that one.


Sure they have someone to blame, a $30 billion deficit inherited from Mulroney.

Just like the deficit the Liberals will inherit from Harper & Deficit Jim whenever they get re-elected... :P


Poor excuse for gutting the DND. If Chretien hadn't been such a complete tool when it came to the DND perhaps people wouldn't believe the notion that the Liberals do not support the CF.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:34 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
bootlegga bootlegga:

Sure they have someone to blame, a $30 billion deficit inherited from Mulroney.

Just like the deficit the Liberals will inherit from Harper & Deficit Jim whenever they get re-elected... :P


Poor excuse for gutting the DND. If Chretien hadn't been such a complete tool when it came to the DND perhaps people wouldn't believe the notion that the Liberals do not support the CF.


Not an excuse, a sad fact of life. You can't afford to drive a BMW when your credit cards are maxed out and you're STILL spending more than you take in.

Every department suffered under the cuts, not just DND. And as the largest department, it's unrealistic to expect that DND wouldn't suffer any cuts, while health care, education and everything else was getting hammered.

Had Mulroney spent a large part of those huge deficits on the DND, I could forgive him, but he never spent much more than Trudeau ever did. As for Trudeau, he did exactly what Harper's doing now, promising big every once and a while, then cancelling most of it after everyone has forgotten his promises.


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bootlegga bootlegga:
Not an excuse, a sad fact of life. You can't afford to drive a BMW when your credit cards are maxed out and you're STILL spending more than you take in.


Chretien did find the money to send the CF to every single backwater that needed a few peacekeepers though didn't he? Perhaps if we scaled back deployments we would have had more money for necessary equipment?

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Every department suffered under the cuts, not just DND. And as the largest department, it's unrealistic to expect that DND wouldn't suffer any cuts, while health care, education and everything else was getting hammered.


I would have expected the CF to take cuts, but I think they took more than their fair share considering all the deployments they had to do.

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Had Mulroney spent a large part of those huge deficits on the DND, I could forgive him, but he never spent much more than Trudeau ever did. As for Trudeau, he did exactly what Harper's doing now, promising big every once and a while, then cancelling most of it after everyone has forgotten his promises.


You won't catch me defending Mulroney. I don't recall Trudeau promising the military much of anything.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:03 pm
 


sandorski sandorski:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
bootlegga bootlegga:
So much for the notion that the Conservatives are better for the CF than the Liberals.


The Liberals have only themselves to blame for that one.


They didn't do what was necessary.


There you go, that's better. :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:31 pm
 


saturn_656 saturn_656:
You won't catch me defending Mulroney. I don't recall Trudeau promising the military much of anything.


Sure, he promised to buy tanks, then went out and bought the cheapest ones. Promised ships for the navy and then only bought six Halifaxes.

I've never said Trudeau was a friend to the CF in any way, but IMHO, we haven't had a leader who really considered the CF a priority since St. Laurent.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:37 pm
 


bootlegga bootlegga:
I've never said Trudeau was a friend to the CF in any way, but IMHO, we haven't had a leader who really considered the CF a priority since St. Laurent.


I can agree with that.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:13 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
sandorski sandorski:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
The Liberals have only themselves to blame for that one.


They didn't do what was necessary.


There you go, that's better. :wink:


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