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Title: Police make arrest in shooting death of young woman
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: wildrosegirl
Date: 2010-05-25 16:03:58
Canadian

[Choban]

Shot over a smoke, now 2 kids don't have their Mother, lovely

[Gunnair]

I seriously wonder, what with all the chatter of the gun advocates, if her or her brother carrying a weapon would really make a difference. The fact that the perp is a gross coward notwithstanding, if someone's willing to kill over a smoke, then it stands to reason that someone willing to kill over a smoke will kill someone packing a pistol over a smoke.

[Yogi]

Gunnair Gunnair:

I seriously wonder, what with all the chatter of the gun advocates, if her or her brother carrying a weapon would really make a difference. The fact that the perp is a gross coward notwithstanding, if someone's willing to kill over a smoke, then it stands to reason that someone willing to kill over a smoke will kill someone packing a pistol over a smoke.

I know the particular area very well. Would never be in that neighborhood without packing!

[Gunnair]

Yogi Yogi:

Gunnair Gunnair:

I seriously wonder, what with all the chatter of the gun advocates, if her or her brother carrying a weapon would really make a difference. The fact that the perp is a gross coward notwithstanding, if someone's willing to kill over a smoke, then it stands to reason that someone willing to kill over a smoke will kill someone packing a pistol over a smoke.

I know the particular area very well. Would never be in that neighborhood without packing!

Noted. But that being said, packing legally in that area simply means that bad guys know your packing. You have no leg up because they would simply adapt.

My point being, packing doesn't remove the threat, it simply forces it to change how it manifests.

[Yogi]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Yogi Yogi:

Gunnair Gunnair:

I seriously wonder, what with all the chatter of the gun advocates, if her or her brother carrying a weapon would really make a difference. The fact that the perp is a gross coward notwithstanding, if someone's willing to kill over a smoke, then it stands to reason that someone willing to kill over a smoke will kill someone packing a pistol over a smoke.

I know the particular area very well. Would never be in that neighborhood without packing!

Noted. But that being said, packing legally in that area simply means that bad guys know your packing. You have no leg up because they would simply adapt.

My point being, packing doesn't remove the threat, it simply forces it to change how it manifests.

In that specific neighborhood, I actually found myself in a situation 'almost' identical to the scene in Crocodile Dundee when the 'thug' pulled a knife on Dundee, and tried to rob him.... " That's not a knife. THIS is a knife"!!!

[andyt]

She wasn't shot over a smoke, ie for refusing to give one. She was shot by a nutbar who just as easily could have shot her just for making eye contact. And carrying a gun isn't going to help her unless you shoot first, ask for the smoke later.

[Gunnair]

andyt andyt:

She wasn't shot over a smoke, ie for refusing to give one. She was shot by a nutbar who just as easily could have shot her just for making eye contact. And carrying a gun isn't going to help her unless you shoot first, ask for the smoke later.

Exactly.

[Yogi]

And I'll just bet that he had duly registered his weapon as required by law!

[Gunnair]

Yogi Yogi:

And I'll just bet that he had duly registered his weapon as required by law!

That's really irrelevent. My question is, if she or her brother had had a duly registered weapon as required by law, would it really have made a difference?

If the guy was either planning or ready to commit an impulse kill, would the fact that one or both of these two people carrying a holstered pistol have actually changed his mind?

This is where I call bullshit on the some of the pro-gun argument. In this situation, I seriously doubt it would have made a difference. And the other typical defence, that maybe if there were a dozen people around packing glocks, they would have either deterred the perp, or killed him thereby saving the justice system some effort, is also crap. I'd lay dollars to donuts that the perp wouldn't be the only one killed in an LRT platform shoot-out.

[Yogi]

Gunnair Gunnair:

Yogi Yogi:

And I'll just bet that he had duly registered his weapon as required by law!

That's really irrelevent. My question is, if she or her brother had had a duly registered weapon as required by law, would it really have made a difference?

If the guy was either planning or ready to commit an impulse kill, would the fact that one or both of these two people carrying a holstered pistol have actually changed his mind?

This is where I call bullshit on the some of the pro-gun argument. In this situation, I seriously doubt it would have made a difference. And the other typical defence, that maybe if there were a dozen people around packing glocks, they would have either deterred the perp, or killed him thereby saving the justice system some effort, is also crap. I'd lay dollars to donuts that the perp wouldn't be the only one killed in an LRT platform shoot-out.

Pure speculation! For me, or anyone else to try to respond otherwise, would also be pure speculation.

[Gunnair]

Yogi Yogi:

Gunnair Gunnair:

Yogi Yogi:

And I'll just bet that he had duly registered his weapon as required by law!

That's really irrelevent. My question is, if she or her brother had had a duly registered weapon as required by law, would it really have made a difference?

If the guy was either planning or ready to commit an impulse kill, would the fact that one or both of these two people carrying a holstered pistol have actually changed his mind?

This is where I call bullshit on the some of the pro-gun argument. In this situation, I seriously doubt it would have made a difference. And the other typical defence, that maybe if there were a dozen people around packing glocks, they would have either deterred the perp, or killed him thereby saving the justice system some effort, is also crap. I'd lay dollars to donuts that the perp wouldn't be the only one killed in an LRT platform shoot-out.

Pure speculation! For me, or anyone else to try to respond otherwise, would also be pure speculation.

That's generally what is done best on these forums.