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Gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, don't it?
It does. Trump also ordered the Centers for Disease Control to cancel their multi-million dollar global warming conference for next month because the CDC is not a climate agency and it's out of their scope.
The EPA people can, of course, resign their jobs and then say whatever they want if they don't like Trump's policies. Just the same as some people resigned over Obama's policies.
That's how it works.
The EPA can resign their jobs. And they can replace all the scientists with marketers and spin doctors and media experts tat specialize in alternative facts. Will the US people be better for it? I don't think so.
I think the US bureaucracy would be better off organizing as a labour movement.
The EPA can resign their jobs. And they can replace all the scientists with marketers and spin doctors and media experts tat specialize in alternative facts. Will the US people be better for it? I don't think so.
The EPA brought this on with their wanton abuse of the Clean Water Act and their Waters of the United States rule.
http://thehill.com/opinion/op-ed/218663 ... -water-act
In the Waters of the United States rule the EPA argued that it had authority over navigable waters within the USA.
Okay, fine so far.
But then they defined almost every body of water as a navigable waterway. This included temporary irrigation ditches and furrows on farms. It included rain gutters on public streets. It included dry creek beds in the American Southwest. It included rain barrels in Wyoming. It included fish farms. It included private aqueducts.
And then the EPA tried to seize these properties when the owners didn't comply with irrational orders and fines.
Now it's payback time and Trump is curbstomping the agency.
He's so mad at them I bet he even takes away their SWAT team.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09 ... sions.html
Note the causus belli here:
They rolled out in full combat gear not to fight an actual crime but to go fishing for violations in contravention of (at least) the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments to the Constitution.
Fuck that. Fuck the EPA. They can be dissolved and their duties transferred back to the Department of the Interior.
America will be a toxic wasteland soon enough. As if it wasn't bad already.
If anyone ever wanted to know what Somalia would look like if were full of White people, Trump will show you. Trump's America is a White Somalia
The EPA can resign their jobs. And they can replace all the scientists with marketers and spin doctors and media experts tat specialize in alternative facts. Will the US people be better for it? I don't think so.
The EPA brought this on with their wanton abuse of the Clean Water Act and their Waters of the United States rule.
http://thehill.com/opinion/op-ed/218663 ... -water-act
In the Waters of the United States rule the EPA argued that it had authority over navigable waters within the USA.
Okay, fine so far.
But then they defined almost every body of water as a navigable waterway. This included temporary irrigation ditches and furrows on farms. It included rain gutters on public streets. It included dry creek beds in the American Southwest. It included rain barrels in Wyoming. It included fish farms. It included private aqueducts.
And then the EPA tried to seize these properties when the owners didn't comply with irrational orders and fines.
Now it's payback time and Trump is curbstomping the agency.
He's so mad at them I bet he even takes away their SWAT team.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09 ... sions.html
Note the causus belli here:
They rolled out in full combat gear not to fight an actual crime but to go fishing for violations in contravention of (at least) the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments to the Constitution.
Fuck that. Fuck the EPA. They can be dissolved and their duties transferred back to the Department of the Interior.
Also more conservative "Alternative facts"
about what the EPA has authority over. From EPAs own website:
What's Covered:
The proposed guidance will help restore protections for waters by providing:
Clarification that small streams and streams that flow part of the year are protected under the Clean Water Act if they have a physical, chemical or biological connection to larger bodies of water downstream and could affect the integrity of those downstream waters. Agencies would be able to evaluate groups of waters holistically rather than the current, piecemeal, stream-by-stream analysis.
Acknowledgment that when a water body does not have a surface connection to an interstate water or a traditional navigable water, but there is a significant physical, chemical or biological connection between the two, both waterbodies should be protected under the Clean Water Act.
Recognition that waterbodies may be �traditional navigable waters,� and subject to Clean Water Act protections, under a wider range of circumstances than identified in previous guidance.
Clarification that interstate waters (crossing state borders) are protected.
What's Not Covered:
This new guidance does not change any of the existing agriculture exemptions under the Clean Water Act. All of the Act�s exemptions from permitting requirements for normal agriculture, forestry and ranching practices continue to apply. The guidance also clearly describes waters not regulated under the Act, including:
Certain artificially irrigated areas
Many agricultural and roadside ditches
Artificial lakes or ponds, including farm and stock ponds
Summary of Key Points in the Proposed Guidance
Based on the agencies' interpretation of the statute, implementing regulations and relevant caselaw, the following waters are protected by the Clean Water Act:
Traditional navigable waters
Interstate waters
Wetlands adjacent to either traditional navigable waters or interstate waters
Non-navigable tributaries to traditional navigable waters that are relatively permanent, meaning they contain water at least seasonally
Wetlands that directly abut relatively permanent waters
In addition, the following waters are protected by the Clean Water Act if a fact-specific analysis determines they have a "significant nexus" to a traditional navigable water or interstate water:
Tributaries to traditional navigable waters or interstate waters
Wetlands adjacent to jurisdictional tributaries to traditional navigable waters or interstate waters
Waters that fall under the "other waters" category of the regulations. The guidance divides these waters into two categories, those that are physically proximate to other jurisdictional waters and those that are not, and discusses how each category should be evaluated.
The following aquatic areas are generally not protected by the Clean Water Act:
Wet areas that are not tributaries or open waters and do not meet the agencies' regulatory definition of "wetlands"
Waters excluded from coverage under the CWA by existing regulations
Waters that lack a "significant nexus" where one is required for a water to be protected by the CWA
Artificially irrigated areas that would revert to upland should irrigation cease
Artificial lakes or ponds created by excavating and/or diking dry land and used exclusively for such purposes as stock watering, irrigation, settling basins, or rice growing
Artificial reflecting pools or swimming pools created by excavating and/or diking dry land
Small ornamental waters created by excavating and/or diking dry land for primarily aesthetic reasons
Water-filled depressions created incidental to construction activity
Groundwater drained through subsurface drainage systems and
Erosional features (gullies and rills), and swales and ditches that are not tributaries or wetlands
https://www.epa.gov/cwa-404/guidance-id ... -water-act
About the Alaska task force:
- "full combat gear" they are required to carry sidearms in the field. They wore standard bulletproof vests. Not "full combat gear "
- "fishing" for violations:
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A task force including members of 10 state and federal law enforcement agencies descended on a gold mine in the tiny town of Chicken (pop. 17) last month, in what locals described as a raid.
�Imagine coming up to your diggings, only to see agents swarming over it like ants, wearing full body armor, with jackets that say "POLICE" emblazoned on them, and all packing side arms,� gold miner C.R. Hammond told the Alaska Dispatch. �How would you have felt? You would be wondering, �My God, what have I done now?�
A spokesman for the federal Environmental Protection Agency did not deny that agents wore body armor and carried guns, but said it was not a "raid."
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"The ongoing investigation conducted by the AK Environmental Crimes Task Force -- consisting of EPA, ADEC, USFWS, ADFG, BLM, Coast Guard, FBI, Alaska State Troopers, NOAA, & US Park Service -- did not result in a raid," the statement read. "The Task Force members involved in the investigation during the week of August 19, 2013, were EPA's Criminal Investigation Division & Bureau of Land Management's Office of Law Enforcement & Security, in cooperation with ADEC's Environmental Crimes Unit."
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The investigation was into possible violations of the Clean Water Act, according to the EPA. The officers were part of the Alaska Environmental Crimes Task Force and visited the outpost near the Canadian border during the third week of August to investigate water discharges into rivers, streams, lakes and oceans.
Late Thursday, Alaska Gov.Sean Parnell announced he had ordered an investigation into the incident, adding, "this level of intrusion and intimidation of Alaskans is absolutely unacceptable."
EPA law enforcement officers, according to the statement, are not only authorized but required to carry firearms to safely and effectively perform their jobs.
"This may include the arrest of offenders and the protection of public safety," the statement continued. "Environmental law enforcement, like other forms of law enforcement, always involves the potential for physical, even armed, confrontation."
The investigation was launched based on sites with a regulatory history of non-compliance with the Clean Water Act and ongoing significant discharges which could be considered felony violations of the legislation.
"All interviews and discussions were consensual and cordial," the statement concluded. "The investigations took place on state and federal lands, not private property. No homes were entered. There weren�t any confrontations or incidents of using force throughout this particular law enforcement operation. Violations were found, no arrests were made, but the investigation of these and possibly other violations continues."
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.foxnews.c ... ent=safari
The EPA can resign their jobs. And they can replace all the scientists with marketers and spin doctors and media experts tat specialize in alternative facts. Will the US people be better for it? I don't think so.
The EPA brought this on with their wanton abuse of the Clean Water Act and their Waters of the United States rule.
http://thehill.com/opinion/op-ed/218663 ... -water-act
In the Waters of the United States rule the EPA argued that it had authority over navigable waters within the USA.
Okay, fine so far.
But then they defined almost every body of water as a navigable waterway. This included temporary irrigation ditches and furrows on farms. It included rain gutters on public streets. It included dry creek beds in the American Southwest. It included rain barrels in Wyoming. It included fish farms. It included private aqueducts.
And then the EPA tried to seize these properties when the owners didn't comply with irrational orders and fines.
Now it's payback time and Trump is curbstomping the agency.
He's so mad at them I bet he even takes away their SWAT team.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09 ... sions.html
Note the causus belli here:
They rolled out in full combat gear not to fight an actual crime but to go fishing for violations in contravention of (at least) the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments to the Constitution.
Fuck that. Fuck the EPA. They can be dissolved and their duties transferred back to the Department of the Interior.
If they were law enforcement officials, perhaps they needed to be armed. Other law enforcement officials are. Here in Canada we have enforcement officers that work for the Environment department. They have to go out into the bush and catch poachers. Seems reasonable to me they should be armed.
Considering what's going on in Flint, I would have thought it merited some strong legislation. The fact is that companies aren't going to look after public resources; that is the role of government. All that's going to happen is more water contamination.
Nah, you'll just get a couple guys come out of the helicopter that look like your neighbours, or perhaps postmen. Might have sidearms if they're upcountry Conservation officers. But they'll still fine you ass if the furrow on your farm is carrying oil leaking out of your tractor into a fish bearing creek. They don't give a fuck how big your company is or how private you think your property is, and that's the job we gave them.
Too goddam many mines that skipped out and left the people holding the mess, too many lodges ignoring fishing and hunting rules for an idiot tourist.
And I don't know anyone who griped when they finally lifted the gag order on Canadian scientists.
Trump administration tells EPA to cut climate page from website:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKBN15906G
FFS this ass is gonna shit in your well, dump oil down the storm drain and tell you he's doing you a favour. And half of you are gonna believe it.
Your tears over the fact that nobody came your leaders party were not delicious. They were pathetic and they smelled like rotting garbage.
Anyone who would say "tears are delicious" is just showing what an awful person they are.
Your tears over the fact that nobody came your leaders party were not delicious. They were pathetic and they smelled like rotting garbage.
Keep that in mind, eh.
As far as idiotic memes go this one is a race to the fucking bottom by everyone from both sides who are getting off on it.