Hundreds of Taliban fighters took over several villages in southern Afghanistan on Monday just outside the region's largest city, and NATO and Afghan forces were redeploying to meet the threat, officials said.
Funny.. you guys sure changed you're opinions since 2 years ago. Guess Afghanistan has nothing to do with Afghanistan and everything to do with winning a federal election.
"RUEZ" said all you armchair warriors better run down and sign up...
Those who can do, those who can't bitch.
Well then ruez why dont you join up... the only bitch here is the fact that stevie makes you wonder harper got dog locked on george wya's ass while he was kissing it and agreed to keep our troups over there fighting a losing battle.. everyone who knows Afghan history will tell you its not worth the fight.. they are asking for billions and now an extention because the Taliban took over most of Kandahar today. well enough is enough and Canadians are fed up with those nut licking tories in Ottawa... when the taliban takes over again all your tax dollars that could have been spent on a worthwhile cause will be pissed away like the sand in the desert... and hopefully the tories will be anhilitaded once again reduced to zero seats this time.. so I guess when Obama is elected in the US and Dion in Canada then peace will once again rule the planet...
Well then ruez why dont you join up... the only bitch here is the fact that stevie makes you wonder harper got dog locked on george wya's ass while he was kissing it and agreed to keep our troups over there fighting a losing battle.. everyone who knows Afghan history will tell you its not worth the fight.. they are asking for billions and now an extention because the Taliban took over most of Kandahar today. well enough is enough and Canadians are fed up with those nut licking tories in Ottawa... when the taliban takes over again all your tax dollars that could have been spent on a worthwhile cause will be pissed away like the sand in the desert... and hopefully the tories will be anhilitaded once again reduced to zero seats this time.. so I guess when Obama is elected in the US and Dion in Canada then peace will once again rule the planet...
It's funny that you and those other dipshits are calling this a "mini-Tet" when all Tet was was a loud suicide. The biggest thing it did was to play up for the Western media.. and looks who's lapping it up.
3 years ago, you guys were solid behind this job and the only thing that changed is it's gotten better. We have a stronger and better trained Afghan army, Afghan police, and more NATO troops, thanks to the Manley ultimatum. Still, the closer we get to winning, the more the left wines.
Well then ruez why dont you join up... the only bitch here is the fact that stevie makes you wonder harper got dog locked on george wya's ass while he was kissing it and agreed to keep our troups over there fighting a losing battle.. everyone who knows Afghan history will tell you its not worth the fight.. they are asking for billions and now an extention because the Taliban took over most of Kandahar today. well enough is enough and Canadians are fed up with those nut licking tories in Ottawa... when the taliban takes over again all your tax dollars that could have been spent on a worthwhile cause will be pissed away like the sand in the desert... and hopefully the tories will be anhilitaded once again reduced to zero seats this time.. so I guess when Obama is elected in the US and Dion in Canada then peace will once again rule the planet...
Your debating skills are astounding.
your knowledge of what debate is is also astounding.. I am not debating.. there is nothing to debate.. just giving the factual truth of the matter..
I noted CTV and CBC presenters had a tone of almost 'glee' when they announced the big prison break and I detect the same tone in kenmore's posts.
What is wrong with the media and people like kenmore? They would rather cheer a bunch of ruthless murdering thugs like the Taliban than support our guys fighting those thugs.
"EyeBrock" said I noted CTV and CBC presenters had a tone of almost 'glee' when they announced the big prison break and I detect the same tone in kenmore's posts.
What is wrong with the media and people like kenmore? They would rather cheer a bunch of ruthless murdering thugs like the Taliban than support our guys fighting those thugs.
The problem is Eyebrock is that the taliban escapees aren't any worse then the so called troops we are training.
Already posted is the article in which we are telling our soldiers to ignore despicable acts done by those very trained troops, acts like raping young boys.
The taliban didn't just spring into existence amidst a peaceful agrarian society. As I posted to Scape the very people we helped overthrow the big bad soviets were the very people doing these despicable acts.
How much better are we when we knowingly support Karzais corrupt regime, knowingly ignore despicable acts like raping young boys, knowingly support the emergence of a narco state and knowingly ignore the fact that no peace will be possible without all sides coming to the table.
Pulling off this jail break under our noses no less can easily mean they had "help".
Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Its just a whole disgusting pile of kangaroo crap.
"DerbyX" said Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Isn't that what Dion was saying? Didn't Dion say that we should be attacking into Pakistan?
Then again.. Dion also wanted us to jail the Taliban here in Canada... And you're Liberals put us in Kanduhar and in Chretien's war in the first place.
"ridenrain" said Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Isn't that what Dion was saying? Didn't Dion say that we should be attacking into Pakistan?
Then again.. Dion also wanted us to jail the Taliban here in Canada... And you're Liberals put us in Kanduhar and in Chretien's war in the first place.
No it isn't and you fanatic partisan hacks are the only people believing that.
Its almost gratifying though to see my earlier posting about pakistan being proven right (yet again).
As for continuing to try and blame bushs war on Chretien, a war you cons would have supported if you were in power (to say nothing of the fact we would be dying in Iraq also) thats just more of your partisan nonesense.
I notice you are silent on the fact that we are doing such a good job that we are telling our troops to ignore the odd incident of boy raping that hey see.
"DerbyX" said Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Isn't that what Dion was saying? Didn't Dion say that we should be attacking into Pakistan?
Then again.. Dion also wanted us to jail the Taliban here in Canada... And you're Liberals put us in Kanduhar and in Chretien's war in the first place.
No it isn't and you fanatic partisan hacks are the only people believing that.
Its almost gratifying though to see my earlier posting about pakistan being proven right (yet again).
As for continuing to try and blame bushs war on Chretien, a war you cons would have supported if you were in power (to say nothing of the fact we would be dying in Iraq also) thats just more of your partisan nonesense.
I notice you are silent on the fact that we are doing such a good job that we are telling our troops to ignore the odd incident of boy raping that hey see.
All for the greater glory eh?
And again we see you're most madening feature, the inability to say that black is black:
"We are going to have to discuss that very actively if they (the Pakistanis) are not able to deal with it on their own. We could consider that option with the NATO forces in order to help Pakistan help us pacify Afghanistan," said Mr. Dion in Quebec City, commenting after his two-day trip to Afghanistan last weekend. "As long as we don't solve the problem in Pakistan, I don't see how we can solve it in Afghanistan."
The Liberal leader explained that Afghan officials told him they know where the extremist strongholds are in Pakistan. But he said the Afghans don't take action.
"One day, we are going to have to act because our soldiers are cleaning out some areas, but in fact very often they are only clean in principle. The insurgents go take refuge in Pakistan and they are going to come back (to Afghanistan) at the earliest opportunity. This could last very long if we don't tackle the problems that often originate from Pakistan," Mr. Dion said.
"DerbyX" said I noted CTV and CBC presenters had a tone of almost 'glee' when they announced the big prison break and I detect the same tone in kenmore's posts.
What is wrong with the media and people like kenmore? They would rather cheer a bunch of ruthless murdering thugs like the Taliban than support our guys fighting those thugs.
The problem is Eyebrock is that the taliban escapees aren't any worse then the so called troops we are training.
Already posted is the article in which we are telling our soldiers to ignore despicable acts done by those very trained troops, acts like raping young boys.
The taliban didn't just spring into existence amidst a peaceful agrarian society. As I posted to Scape the very people we helped overthrow the big bad soviets were the very people doing these despicable acts.
How much better are we when we knowingly support Karzais corrupt regime, knowingly ignore despicable acts like raping young boys, knowingly support the emergence of a narco state and knowingly ignore the fact that no peace will be possible without all sides coming to the table.
Pulling off this jail break under our noses no less can easily mean they had "help".
Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Its just a whole disgusting pile of kangaroo crap.
I'm aware that Karzai and his boys are not much better than the taliban, but they are better.
People forget that outside of North America or other developed nations, there are a lot of socially backward nations. Think of how harsh and brutal the UK was in the 14-15th centuries. Many countries in Africa and the Middle East are barely out of their own medieval periods.
It will take generations in these backward countries such as Afghanistan and Pakistan to embrace true social change.
Think of the periods in the West when religion dictated political policy. The Islamic world is still stuck there. Until they go through their own renaissance and �age of reason� they will act like third world medieval men and women, with all the brutality and lack of reasoning that we in the West exhibited in the Middle Ages.
My original point is that Craig Oliver and his ilk might try and show a bit less glee when the Taliban have a success, and try and be a bit more positive about the good things the Canadian Forces are achieving in a stone-age society that has been racked by decades of tribal in-fighting.
Show where Dion said "invade", unlike Karzai. Just because you imply Dion said that is bolloxs.
Now that the truth is out and that it is commonplace that people think military intervention in pakistan is neccessary can easily mean that had Dion meant that then he was simply speaking the truth.
If Mackay or Harper said it after their visits you would be crowing about their visionary abilities.
As for posting your crybaby "Chretiens war" thats just your way of making sure that any blame falls on him and yet you will claim all success for yourself and the CPC for any that happens.
No responsibility yet all the credit.
The CPC credo and your personal one as well it would seem.
All that and still no comment on the fact that soldiers we are training and supporting are raping boys.
all you armchair warriors better run down and sign up...
Those who can do, those who can't bitch.
Guess Afghanistan has nothing to do with Afghanistan and everything to do with winning a federal election.
all you armchair warriors better run down and sign up...
Those who can do, those who can't bitch.
Well then ruez why dont you join up... the only bitch here is the fact that stevie makes you wonder harper got dog locked on george wya's ass while he was kissing it and agreed to keep our troups over there fighting a losing battle.. everyone who knows Afghan history will tell you its not worth the fight.. they are asking for billions and now an extention because the Taliban took over most of Kandahar today.
well enough is enough and Canadians are fed up with those nut licking tories in Ottawa... when the taliban takes over again all your tax dollars that could have been spent on a worthwhile cause will be pissed away like the sand in the desert...
and hopefully the tories will be anhilitaded once again reduced to zero seats this time.. so I guess when Obama is elected in the US and Dion in Canada then peace will once again rule the planet...
Well then ruez why dont you join up... the only bitch here is the fact that stevie makes you wonder harper got dog locked on george wya's ass while he was kissing it and agreed to keep our troups over there fighting a losing battle.. everyone who knows Afghan history will tell you its not worth the fight.. they are asking for billions and now an extention because the Taliban took over most of Kandahar today.
well enough is enough and Canadians are fed up with those nut licking tories in Ottawa... when the taliban takes over again all your tax dollars that could have been spent on a worthwhile cause will be pissed away like the sand in the desert...
and hopefully the tories will be anhilitaded once again reduced to zero seats this time.. so I guess when Obama is elected in the US and Dion in Canada then peace will once again rule the planet...
Your debating skills are astounding.
3 years ago, you guys were solid behind this job and the only thing that changed is it's gotten better. We have a stronger and better trained Afghan army, Afghan police, and more NATO troops, thanks to the Manley ultimatum.
Still, the closer we get to winning, the more the left wines.
Well then ruez why dont you join up... the only bitch here is the fact that stevie makes you wonder harper got dog locked on george wya's ass while he was kissing it and agreed to keep our troups over there fighting a losing battle.. everyone who knows Afghan history will tell you its not worth the fight.. they are asking for billions and now an extention because the Taliban took over most of Kandahar today.
well enough is enough and Canadians are fed up with those nut licking tories in Ottawa... when the taliban takes over again all your tax dollars that could have been spent on a worthwhile cause will be pissed away like the sand in the desert...
and hopefully the tories will be anhilitaded once again reduced to zero seats this time.. so I guess when Obama is elected in the US and Dion in Canada then peace will once again rule the planet...
Your debating skills are astounding.
your knowledge of what debate is is also astounding.. I am not debating.. there is nothing to debate.. just giving the factual truth of the matter..
What is wrong with the media and people like kenmore? They would rather cheer a bunch of ruthless murdering thugs like the Taliban than support our guys fighting those thugs.
I noted CTV and CBC presenters had a tone of almost 'glee' when they announced the big prison break and I detect the same tone in kenmore's posts.
What is wrong with the media and people like kenmore? They would rather cheer a bunch of ruthless murdering thugs like the Taliban than support our guys fighting those thugs.
The problem is Eyebrock is that the taliban escapees aren't any worse then the so called troops we are training.
Already posted is the article in which we are telling our soldiers to ignore despicable acts done by those very trained troops, acts like raping young boys.
The taliban didn't just spring into existence amidst a peaceful agrarian society. As I posted to Scape the very people we helped overthrow the big bad soviets were the very people doing these despicable acts.
How much better are we when we knowingly support Karzais corrupt regime, knowingly ignore despicable acts like raping young boys, knowingly support the emergence of a narco state and knowingly ignore the fact that no peace will be possible without all sides coming to the table.
Pulling off this jail break under our noses no less can easily mean they had "help".
Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Its just a whole disgusting pile of kangaroo crap.
Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Isn't that what Dion was saying?
Didn't Dion say that we should be attacking into Pakistan?
Then again.. Dion also wanted us to jail the Taliban here in Canada...
And you're Liberals put us in Kanduhar and in Chretien's war in the first place.
Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Isn't that what Dion was saying?
Didn't Dion say that we should be attacking into Pakistan?
Then again.. Dion also wanted us to jail the Taliban here in Canada...
And you're Liberals put us in Kanduhar and in Chretien's war in the first place.
No it isn't and you fanatic partisan hacks are the only people believing that.
Its almost gratifying though to see my earlier posting about pakistan being proven right (yet again).
As for continuing to try and blame bushs war on Chretien, a war you cons would have supported if you were in power (to say nothing of the fact we would be dying in Iraq also) thats just more of your partisan nonesense.
I notice you are silent on the fact that we are doing such a good job that we are telling our troops to ignore the odd incident of boy raping that hey see.
All for the greater glory eh?
Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Isn't that what Dion was saying?
Didn't Dion say that we should be attacking into Pakistan?
Then again.. Dion also wanted us to jail the Taliban here in Canada...
And you're Liberals put us in Kanduhar and in Chretien's war in the first place.
No it isn't and you fanatic partisan hacks are the only people believing that.
Its almost gratifying though to see my earlier posting about pakistan being proven right (yet again).
As for continuing to try and blame bushs war on Chretien, a war you cons would have supported if you were in power (to say nothing of the fact we would be dying in Iraq also) thats just more of your partisan nonesense.
I notice you are silent on the fact that we are doing such a good job that we are telling our troops to ignore the odd incident of boy raping that hey see.
All for the greater glory eh?
And again we see you're most madening feature, the inability to say that black is black:
The Liberal leader explained that Afghan officials told him they know where the extremist strongholds are in Pakistan. But he said the Afghans don't take action.
"One day, we are going to have to act because our soldiers are cleaning out some areas, but in fact very often they are only clean in principle. The insurgents go take refuge in Pakistan and they are going to come back (to Afghanistan) at the earliest opportunity. This could last very long if we don't tackle the problems that often originate from Pakistan," Mr. Dion said.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=242249
Dion said that NATO may need to go into Pakistan. Isn't that "the threat of expanding the war into a country"??
Chretien put us in Afghanistan = Chretien's war.
I noted CTV and CBC presenters had a tone of almost 'glee' when they announced the big prison break and I detect the same tone in kenmore's posts.
What is wrong with the media and people like kenmore? They would rather cheer a bunch of ruthless murdering thugs like the Taliban than support our guys fighting those thugs.
The problem is Eyebrock is that the taliban escapees aren't any worse then the so called troops we are training.
Already posted is the article in which we are telling our soldiers to ignore despicable acts done by those very trained troops, acts like raping young boys.
The taliban didn't just spring into existence amidst a peaceful agrarian society. As I posted to Scape the very people we helped overthrow the big bad soviets were the very people doing these despicable acts.
How much better are we when we knowingly support Karzais corrupt regime, knowingly ignore despicable acts like raping young boys, knowingly support the emergence of a narco state and knowingly ignore the fact that no peace will be possible without all sides coming to the table.
Pulling off this jail break under our noses no less can easily mean they had "help".
Aside from ridenhacks partisan BS over Karzais comments we now have the threat of expanding the war into a country that will certainly fight back en masse. (what the hell was he thinking?)
Its just a whole disgusting pile of kangaroo crap.
I'm aware that Karzai and his boys are not much better than the taliban, but they are better.
People forget that outside of North America or other developed nations, there are a lot of socially backward nations. Think of how harsh and brutal the UK was in the 14-15th centuries. Many countries in Africa and the Middle East are barely out of their own medieval periods.
It will take generations in these backward countries such as Afghanistan and Pakistan to embrace true social change.
Think of the periods in the West when religion dictated political policy. The Islamic world is still stuck there.
Until they go through their own renaissance and �age of reason� they will act like third world medieval men and women, with all the brutality and lack of reasoning that we in the West exhibited in the Middle Ages.
My original point is that Craig Oliver and his ilk might try and show a bit less glee when the Taliban have a success, and try and be a bit more positive about the good things the Canadian Forces are achieving in a stone-age society that has been racked by decades of tribal in-fighting.
Show where Dion said "invade", unlike Karzai. Just because you imply Dion said that is bolloxs.
Now that the truth is out and that it is commonplace that people think military intervention in pakistan is neccessary can easily mean that had Dion meant that then he was simply speaking the truth.
If Mackay or Harper said it after their visits you would be crowing about their visionary abilities.
As for posting your crybaby "Chretiens war" thats just your way of making sure that any blame falls on him and yet you will claim all success for yourself and the CPC for any that happens.
No responsibility yet all the credit.
The CPC credo and your personal one as well it would seem.
All that and still no comment on the fact that soldiers we are training and supporting are raping boys.