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Tories release $490B military plan without fanf

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Tories release $490B military plan without fanfare


Military | 207320 hits | Jun 20 3:44 am | Posted by: RUEZ
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The Conservative government has quietly released the details of its extensive plan to beef up the military, including spending $490 billion over the next 20 years to ensure Canadian soldiers are well-equipped, well-trained and highly active.

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  1. by avatar uwish
    Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:52 am
    nice!

  2. by avatar CanAm1
    Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:20 pm
    Awesome!!! It's about time we give our fighting troops the proper equipment to do the job. Bravo Zulu for not being a trumpeter of what you do that's good. That's refreshing, a politician not blowing his own horn. :)

  3. by avatar sandorski
    Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:49 pm
    I hope this figure is a Total amount and not New Spending. If it's New Spending, it's not going to fly.

  4. by ridenrain
    Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:52 pm
    That list of conditions that they expect the forces to maintain is a pretty steep one:

    As a result, the military needs to be well-prepared to focus on six core missions:

    -Defending Canada's sovereignty.
    -Supporting a major international event in Canada, like the 2010 Olympics.
    -Responding to any major terrorist attacks.
    -Providing aid to civilian authorities during natural disasters and other crises.
    -Conducting a major international operation for an extended period, such as the Afghan mission.
    -Have enough troops remaining to deploy to other international crises for shorter periods of time.


    Good for the government for finally treating the forces as a nessesity and not some special interest group.

    And my fave.. Dawn Black gets another opportuunity to prove why she's unqualified to be defence critic.

  5. by avatar uwish
    Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:00 pm
    It won't be easy but..

    at least we have a government that ISN'T putting it's head in the sand when it comes to defending this nation.

    420 B over the next 20 years is only 21B a year anyway. I hope capital expenditures do NOT come out of general operating budgets.

  6. by avatar bootlegga
    Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:17 pm
    That is great news.

    I have to agree that if capital purchases don't come out of that $490 billion, then annual spending would average $24.5, which 20 years from now isn't all that much. Seeing as the CF has six major fleets to replace (destroyers, frigates, fighters, SAR aircraft, patrol aircraft and land combat vehicles) this sum, while seeming to be huge, isn't all that much. When all is said and done, I can see new DDHs/FFHs costing as much as $15-20 billion, with fighters close to that. SAR and patrol aircraft will be $5-8 billion or so each. Seeing as we spend more than half the defence budget right now on salaries/benefits and other 'staffing' related costs,

    Personally, if Harper was smart, he'd do the same thing and say we're going to spend XX billion on health care over the next 20 years too, simply by adding up the next 20 years of expected budgets. That alone might get him a majority...

    My only worry is that we'll see a recurrence of Mulroney-syndrome...promise big and then renege later.

  7. by ridenrain
    Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:32 pm
    Don't worry. The duration is long enough that it could still all be cancelled by Chretien Mk.2

  8. by avatar meaden24
    Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:00 pm
    FINALLY!

  9. by avatar Demon971
    Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:58 pm
    "ridenrain" said
    That list of conditions that they expect the forces to maintain is a pretty steep one:
    As a result, the military needs to be well-prepared to focus on six core missions:

    -Defending Canada's sovereignty.
    -Supporting a major international event in Canada, like the 2010 Olympics.
    -Responding to any major terrorist attacks.
    -Providing aid to civilian authorities during natural disasters and other crises.
    -Conducting a major international operation for an extended period, such as the Afghan mission.
    -Have enough troops remaining to deploy to other international crises for shorter periods of time.
    Good for the government for finally treating the forces as a nessesity and not some special interest group.

    And my fave.. Dawn Black gets another opportuunity to prove why she's unqualified to be defence critic.


    Steep list? Maybe, but those are pretty much the things we do now anyway (without that sum). Though, $490 BILLION will help us do them even better!! :mrgreen: :rock:

  10. by avatar tritium
    Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:43 pm
    15 Billion is NOT Enough for equipment. 100 Billion is what I would like to see on new equipment, planes, ships, subs..

    Also, quit with the second hand shit, Canadian's are more than capable of building our own.

    In short 500 B total with more on Equipment.

  11. by avatar uwish
    Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:11 pm
    second hand was the liberals primary shopping spree for the military. We are paying for it now!

  12. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:15 pm
    Good for the military--they've been given the short shrift too often. Though I still would have preferred a tax break to more government spending. I would have liked to see some defence R&D funding to private corporations. I wonder if that's in there somewhere.



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