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E-mail on interfaith marriage gets St. Charles

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E-mail on interfaith marriage gets St. Charles man on no-fly list


Political | 206818 hits | Mar 23 9:11 am | Posted by: DerbyX
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Abe Mashal, a 31-year-old dog trainer from St. Charles, says FBI agents told him he ended up on the government�s no-fly list because he exchanged e-mails with a Muslim cleric they were monitoring. The topic: How to raise his children in an interfaith ho

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  1. by avatar GreenTiger
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:49 pm
    There are many many Islamic clerics one could email about his situation. Am Imam with a Death to Americans attitude is asking for lots of problems. Am I being overly cautious? perhaps.

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:10 pm
    "GreenTiger" said
    There are many many Islamic clerics one could email about his situation. Am Imam with a Death to Americans attitude is asking for lots of problems. Am I being overly cautious? perhaps.


    How does ensuring a former Marine turned dog trainer will never again be able to board a plane make anyone safer?

    Are you being overly cautious - understatement of the year.

  3. by avatar bootlegga
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:15 pm
    Isn't there a little thing called freedom of speech in the US?

  4. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:18 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    Isn't there a little thing called freedom of speech in the US?


    Pfffftthahahahahahahahahaahaha!

    Only the speech no one else disagrees with. And freedom of association, so long is it isn't associating with suspicious people. And Freedom of Religion, so long as it it isn't a religion that is also suspicious.

  5. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:23 pm
    Hmmm. I'm agreeing with the former Marine here only on the grounds that his communication with the radical imam was (purportedly) innocent. If merely emailing someone who is under investigation is sufficient to get you on a no-fly list then I sure hope all the spammers sending email to the imam are being banned from flying anywhere.

  6. by avatar GreenTiger
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:05 pm
    "bootlegga" said
    Isn't there a little thing called freedom of speech in the US?

    Oh yes we definitely have freedom of Speech in The States:

    You are free to disrupt the funerals of American Military personnel.

    You can dress up a bunch of Nazis and march past the homes of Holocaust survivors.

    You can even dress up in silly capes and hoods and burn the cross.

    You can Praise the Magnificent 19 hijackers from 9-11 giving their all for Allah.


    I would expect though that the ER units in the local hospitals may be quite busy.

  7. by avatar GreenTiger
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:10 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Hmmm. I'm agreeing with the former Marine here only on the grounds that his communication with the radical imam was (purportedly) innocent. If merely emailing someone who is under investigation is sufficient to get you on a no-fly list then I sure hope all the spammers sending email to the imam are being banned from flying anywhere.


    Why would he pick a radical Imam though? There are thousands that are a credit to their faith. Why not pick one of them?

  8. by avatar andyt
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:15 pm
    "GreenTiger" said

    Why would he pick a radical Imam though? There are thousands that are a credit to their faith. Why not pick one of them?


    I was thinking along the same lines. This seems to be a real borderline issue, if even Bart is defending this guy. Maybe he didn't know the Imam was radical, maybe the Imam only put those ideas out to a select few. We don't even know why the Imam was being watched. Going by previous FBI tactics, he may be perfectly innocent, but under surveillance just because he's Muslim.

  9. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:34 pm
    "GreenTiger" said
    Hmmm. I'm agreeing with the former Marine here only on the grounds that his communication with the radical imam was (purportedly) innocent. If merely emailing someone who is under investigation is sufficient to get you on a no-fly list then I sure hope all the spammers sending email to the imam are being banned from flying anywhere.


    Why would he pick a radical Imam though? There are thousands that are a credit to their faith. Why not pick one of them?

    I hate to inflame the usual 'tards, but with so many of these mutts spewing hate, what of them are NOT radical?

    And how the heck is a mere layperson supposed to know that the imam they're emailing is a radical when the media and etc. keep insisting that radical muslims are a figment of our racist imaginations?

    Hell, I wonder if we're all under investigation for chatting with DesertDude or any of the other Muslims we've seen on this site?

  10. by Lemmy
    Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:58 pm
    "BartSimpson" said
    Hell, I wonder if we're all under investigation for chatting with DesertDude or any of the other Muslims we've seen on this site?

    8O If Dick Chaney kicks in my door, I'm gonna beat him senseless with a dish towel.

  11. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:24 am
    Bart, what would happen if Fatherland Security knew you interected with Abass and saladin?



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