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Trade deal could be bitter medicine


Business | 207850 hits | Nov 13 8:32 am | Posted by: DrCaleb
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WikiLeaks has exposed details of secret trade negotiations that could leave Australians paying more for drugs and medicines, movies, computer games and software, and be placed under surveillance as part of a US-led crackdown on internet piracy.

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  1. by avatar DrCaleb
    Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:59 pm
    Once again, think back to the recent Throne Speech - how many references to 'citizen' were there and hom many references to 'consumer'.

  2. by avatar DrCaleb
    Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:52 pm
    The leaked draft shows that the US and Japan oppose wording, supported by most of the other countries, that highlights the importance of "maintain a balance between the rights of intellectual property holders and the legitimate interests of users and the community".


    I just read a disturbing article and it brought this line into persepctive.

    Renault's new electric car will not be available for purchase, but rental only. (EV-1 anyone?). But! The batteries will be protected with DRM (Digital Rights Management) so they can stop the car from charging when connected to a charger - remotely! You get to pay for the car, but you get to enjoy it within their rules.

    Sound like Blu-Ray anyone?

  3. by avatar bootlegga
    Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:58 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    Sound like Blu-Ray anyone?


    I hate Blu-ray! Constantly needing updates and never letting me just watch the movie...it makes me long for VHS tapes.

  4. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:12 pm
    "DrCaleb" said
    The leaked draft shows that the US and Japan oppose wording, supported by most of the other countries, that highlights the importance of "maintain a balance between the rights of intellectual property holders and the legitimate interests of users and the community".


    I just read a disturbing article and it brought this line into persepctive.

    Renault's new electric car will not be available for purchase, but rental only. (EV-1 anyone?). But! The batteries will be protected with DRM (Digital Rights Management) so they can stop the car from charging when connected to a charger - remotely! You get to pay for the car, but you get to enjoy it within their rules.

    Sound like Blu-Ray anyone?



    Wait until someone patents your personal genome, then sends you a bill
    demanding royalties.

  5. by avatar DrCaleb
    Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:25 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said

    I just read a disturbing article and it brought this line into persepctive.

    Renault's new electric car will not be available for purchase, but rental only. (EV-1 anyone?). But! The batteries will be protected with DRM (Digital Rights Management) so they can stop the car from charging when connected to a charger - remotely! You get to pay for the car, but you get to enjoy it within their rules.

    Sound like Blu-Ray anyone?



    Wait until someone patents your personal genome, then sends you a bill
    demanding royalties.

    Any company sequencing my genome will get a 'divide by zero' error.

  6. by avatar saturn_656
    Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:15 am
    "bootlegga" said
    Sound like Blu-Ray anyone?


    I hate Blu-ray! Constantly needing updates and never letting me just watch the movie...it makes me long for VHS tapes.

    I'd pay good money for a player that didn't force me to sit through the previews and ads. Try to skip 'em and you get "action not permitted" or some BS like that.

  7. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:07 am

    Any company sequencing my genome will get a 'divide by zero' error.



    Hey, the extra "Y" chromosome ought to be good for bonus points.

  8. by Anonymous
    Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:30 pm
    "saturn_656" said
    Sound like Blu-Ray anyone?


    I hate Blu-ray! Constantly needing updates and never letting me just watch the movie...it makes me long for VHS tapes.

    I'd pay good money for a player that didn't force me to sit through the previews and ads. Try to skip 'em and you get "action not permitted" or some BS like that.

    Too bad the Conservatives made that a crime.

    There is one piece of the DMCA and the digital locks portion of the C-11 bill which has simply never made any sense to me at all: it's that circumvention of "technical protection measures" (generally, DRM) breaks the law even if the circumvention was to make a legal copy of something. It has never been explained why such a provision cannot be limited to cases where the tools are used to infringe. When you make such a broad restriction against circumvention, you lock up plenty of perfectly legal uses of content and (potentially even worse) open up an opportunity to deny people access to things in the public domain -- creating the potential for a perpetual copyright via DRM.

  9. by avatar bootlegga
    Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:18 pm
    "saturn_656" said
    Sound like Blu-Ray anyone?


    I hate Blu-ray! Constantly needing updates and never letting me just watch the movie...it makes me long for VHS tapes.

    I'd pay good money for a player that didn't force me to sit through the previews and ads. Try to skip 'em and you get "action not permitted" or some BS like that.

    Yeah, me too.

    Now the only solution is to load the DVD in (without turning the TV on) and do other stuff. When I finally turn the TV on 15 minutes later, it's ready to play.

  10. by avatar DrCaleb
    Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:29 pm
    "bootlegga" said

    I hate Blu-ray! Constantly needing updates and never letting me just watch the movie...it makes me long for VHS tapes.


    I'd pay good money for a player that didn't force me to sit through the previews and ads. Try to skip 'em and you get "action not permitted" or some BS like that.

    Yeah, me too.

    Now the only solution is to load the DVD in (without turning the TV on) and do other stuff. When I finally turn the TV on 15 minutes later, it's ready to play.

    I was an idiot. I built a media PC that I use as a PVR, and to watch Netflix and movies. I bought a PC-BluRay drive for it hoping to play my movie collection on it, but it will not play BluRay movies. The only way to do that is to buy a media player that supports BluRay encryption.

    There are none available for Linux, at any price. In Windows, Microsoft Media players don't have BluRay plugins because they too cost money, and Microsoft supported that whole HD-DVD failed standard.



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