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James Moore: Not my job to 'feed neighbour's ch

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James Moore: Not my job to 'feed neighbour's child'


Political | 208041 hits | Dec 16 8:42 am | Posted by: Zipperfish
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It's not up to the federal government to help out children who don't have enough to eat, Industry Minister James Moore said in Vancouver.

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  1. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:54 pm
    Somebody's going ot get a visit from teh Ghost of Christas Past on Christmas Eve. :lol:

  2. by avatar andyt
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:57 pm
    Probably best to extend the euthanasia laws to those kids - they're just going to grow up to be troublemakers anyway. Save the state a lot of money.

  3. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:58 pm
    I don't see a problem with what he said in its full context. He does not want the Federal government stepping into a Provincial matter. But if the Province elects to deal with the issue then Moore's comments do not preclude the Province applying for Federal support.

    But he's clear saying that the initiative needs to come from the Province and that speaks well to the man's appreciation for Canada's Federal system of government.

  4. by avatar Zipperfish  Gold Member
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:03 pm
    "'Is it the government's job � my job to feed my neighbour's child? I don't think so,' Moore said"

    Yes. yes it is. It is your job to feed your neighbour's child. Especially at Christmas. Why am I, an agnostic, telling this to you, a supposed Christian, Mr. Moore. If a child is cold, you give her a blanket. If a child is hungry, you feed him.

  5. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:11 pm
    If you don't feed your neighbour's child, he may very well grow up into someone angry enough to take it from you by force. it is in your self-interest look after each other. We're all in this little boat together.

  6. by avatar andyt
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:18 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    If you don't feed your neighbour's child, he may very well grow up into someone angry enough to take it from you by force. it is in your self-interest look after each other. We're all in this little boat together.


    Something we don't really live by. Schools in Vancouver and area keep increasing their child breakfast programs, even in more affluent areas. This is all done by donation, so often breakfast is pretty minimal. We should just have a school breakfast and lunch program funded by the govt and be done with it. Kids learn way better and disrupt the class way less when they're not hungry.

  7. by avatar Jabberwalker
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:29 pm
    "andyt" said
    If you don't feed your neighbour's child, he may very well grow up into someone angry enough to take it from you by force. it is in your self-interest look after each other. We're all in this little boat together.


    Something we don't really live by. Schools in Vancouver and area keep increasing their child breakfast programs, even in more affluent areas. This is all done by donation, so often breakfast is pretty minimal. We should just have a school breakfast and lunch program funded by the govt and be done with it. Kids learn way better and disrupt the class way less when they're not hungry.

    You might just render a profit on the scheme like that over time if it diverts some of those kids away from the dole, later in life.

  8. by avatar Public_Domain
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:33 pm
    :|

  9. by avatar PublicAnimalNo9
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:35 pm
    Love Bob Rae's comment on charity. This coming from a doofus who thinks charity begins and ends with the insurance industry.

    As for Moore's comments, it's not my job to make sure you have police and fire services either. It's not my job to make sure you have water and sewers. It's not my job to make sure YOUR kids have access to health care.
    Hell, let's get rid of the child tax credit. Why should people who choose not to have children be forced to subsidize those that do have kids?

  10. by avatar andyt
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:38 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    If you don't feed your neighbour's child, he may very well grow up into someone angry enough to take it from you by force. it is in your self-interest look after each other. We're all in this little boat together.


    Something we don't really live by. Schools in Vancouver and area keep increasing their child breakfast programs, even in more affluent areas. This is all done by donation, so often breakfast is pretty minimal. We should just have a school breakfast and lunch program funded by the govt and be done with it. Kids learn way better and disrupt the class way less when they're not hungry.

    You might just render a profit on the scheme like that over time if it diverts some of those kids away from the dole, later in life.

    See my sig. Poverty costs us big in the long run. Poor kids' brains develop less optimally than kids in better circumstances. Poor people have way more health problems and contact with the justice system. Plus all the wasted productivity of growing suboptimal people.

    What stands in the way, aside from people not caring, is that it would take big bucks now to save even bigger bucks down the road. By the time the benefits are seen, the politicians that created those programs are long gone, and voters also have short attention spans, care more about saving a tax dollar now than saving 2 later. At one time we had an ethos to do the right thing - look at all the social programs we do have, but we've lost that.

  11. by avatar bootlegga
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:15 pm
    He's correct that it isn't the government's job to feed children - just like it's not their job to help homeless people, drug addicts or any other member of society.

    It is however in their INTEREST to do so.

    While Andy and I don't always see eye to eye, he is correct that poverty does cost all of us. By housing 68 homeless people, the City of Edmonton has saved $2 million in health care costs alone!

    http://homelesscommission.org/

    Likewise, I`m sure feeding hungry kids helps reduce petty crime like shoplifting.

    If you`re not a heartless bastard, donate to this charity that helps feed 2000 Calgary kids everyday - or find one in your town and donate to them.

  12. by avatar BartSimpson  Gold Member
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:17 pm
    "Jabberwalker" said
    If you don't feed your neighbour's child, he may very well grow up into someone angry enough to take it from you by force.


    He can to take it by force. :idea:

  13. by Thanos
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:26 pm
    Fuckin lousy Soviet bastards.

  14. by avatar DanSC
    Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:35 pm
    Of course it's not the government's job to feed the child.

    It's the government's job to make sure the parents/guardians feed the child.



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