Most consumers, and chefs for that matter, are not aware of the racist slur behind the kaffir lime. The k-word is akin to the n-word in South Africa and some other African countries.
"BeaverFever" said I agree that it seems to be much ado about nothing, but what would you say if it were called a "Nigger Lime?"
I would never call anything that. The problem with Political Correctness is that a term may mean one thing in one culture, and another somewhere else. 'Kaffir' in South Asia is not the same as it is in South Africa; but 'Nigger' is the same pretty much everywhere.
It's part of the PC philosophy to intentionally misrepresent things in order to get people to feel guilty about themselves and turn to the PC way of thinking. I choose not to comply, because I know my own intentions.
I love Kaffir Lime leaf chicken curry, and Kaffir Lime leaf in a Brazilian seafood stew, and in fish cakes, and in many other things and not once do I mean it as a disparaging comment toward any minority. Anyone who implies that I do can go fuck them self.
Well I don't want to get into the lime thing because I think it's trivial, but to the broader "PC" issue:
It's part of the PC philosophy to intentionally misrepresent things
I don't think that's an accurate statement - especially the "intentionally misrepresent" part.
because I know my own intentions
I think some main points of the "PC way of thinking" are that 1) a person's intentions are not always obvious 2) a person's intentions are not always relevant, i.e. if you know certain words or actions offend people and you consciously choose to use those words in front of those people anyway, it's really the conscious choice to lack consideration rather than the word/action itself. For example, I tend to curse like a pirate, but not around my parents-in-law because they are very Catholic and find it highly offensive. Whether or not I mean to offend doesn't matter - they'e made their feelings on the topic clear and I don't really need to curse in front of them...if I decide to continue swearing infront of them, I am in effect, intending to offend.
I think some main points of the "PC way of thinking" are that 1) a person's intentions are not always obvious 2) a person's intentions are not always relevant, i.e. if you know certain words or actions offend people and you consciously choose to use those words in front of those people anyway, it's really the conscious choice to lack consideration rather than the word/action itself. For example, I tend to curse like a pirate, but not around my parents-in-law because they are very Catholic and find it highly offensive. Whether or not I mean to offend doesn't matter - they'e made their feelings on the topic clear and I don't really need to curse in front of them...if I decide to continue swearing infront of them, I am in effect, intending to offend.
The Politically Correct crowd have the audacity to tell me that: 1) I don't know what I know, and that; 2) I don't mean what I say.
A person's intentions are always relevant - I never intentionally try to insult or offend anyone {that hasn't tried that on me first, then the gloves are off}. But if I do happen to offend or insult someone unintentionally; there is no constitutional right to not be offended! Put on the big girl skirt and move on! What offends me in when they try to tell me what I should say or should think or should do, because something might possibly offend someone when no one has voiced offense at anything!
As Ghandi defined it, it's 'violence' to try to coerce someone to do or say or think something they do not want to; to inflict your will on another.
Are there huge anti-Lime leaf demonstrations in Pretoria? No! No one cares! Just like no one cares that our local CFL club is named 'Eskimos' but yet it might be offensive because one person in our city of over a million thinks it could be offensive, but yet the 'Canucks' of Vancouver is perfectly acceptable when 'Canuck' used to be an offensive term like 'Yankee'. That one person (who is not Innu) needs to put on the big boy pants and see that his opinion in in the extreme minority - not that everyone needs to come around to his way of thinking.
The Politically Correct crowd have the audacity to tell me that: 1) I don't know what I know, and that; 2) I don't mean what I say.
No, not at all. The point is that OTHER PEOPLE don't know what you know or what you mean.
The point here is that you can't control what offends other people, just as they can't control what offends you. Just as there is no constitutional right to not be offended, there is no constitutional right to force someone to not be offended.
Bottom line: In any situation where you know that X is offensive to some people, you can:
1) Avoid X in situations where you can expect it to cause offence 2) Do X and consciously accept that some people may be offended and you can't control that.
It's that simple. Whether you choose 1 or 2 depends on whether you care if the people in question are offended or not. It may be perfectly valid to pursue option 2 (as with the lime issue) but don't act surprised by some peoples' reaction since you made a conscious decision to take that risk (presumably for good reason). FULL STOP.
I don't like word "white" it's racist. White snow, white sugar, white flour. It abuses me. Why not to use another word. Seriously, we speak so much about racism that do very stupid things. The more we speak about racism, the more racist we become. You think that word "Niger" will be popular if we were not speaking about racism ? You're mistaken, if we not - nowadays you would see it only in geography and history books. But not, we speak about it and we give an idea to idiots, who start using it to offend someone. Those who are offended are second idiots because they start speaking about racism and torment fruits, rivers, colors etc. And act like someone is owed them something.
No, in one of the recent wrinkles of PC tyranny your intentions are irrelevant. All that matters is the perception of the 'victim'.
That means if you say "Good morning" to someone they can elect to interpret that as racist, sexist, ageist, homophobic, or etc. and then you are supposed to plead guilty and then attend whatever the hell indoctrination course you're ordered to attend or else be fired.
My personal favorite paradox in Federal law on sexual harassment is that a victim can claim retaliation if the accused avoids contact with the accuser *and* if the accused avoid contact with the accuser.
Funny how white liberals are the ones telling others that they to be offended, even when no offense is taken. They seem to figure that they are the only ones capable of being the arbiter in determining if something is offensive. Closet racists
That means if you say "Good morning" to someone they can elect to interpret that as racist, sexist, ageist, homophobic, or etc. and then you are supposed to plead guilty and then attend whatever the hell indoctrination course you're ordered to attend or else be fired.
And if not, be sure you will get a crowd of crazy folks with posters under your home and office windows.
Bottom line: In any situation where you know that X is offensive to some people, you can:
1) Avoid X in situations where you can expect it to cause offence 2) Do X and consciously accept that some people may be offended and you can't control that.
It's that simple. Whether you choose 1 or 2 depends on whether you care if the people in question are offended or not. It may be perfectly valid to pursue option 2 (as with the lime issue) but don't act surprised by some peoples' reaction since you made a conscious decision to take that risk (presumably for good reason). FULL STOP.
Let's not forget that conservatives have their own political correctness witch-hunts too - ask Ellen Degeneris, Bill Maher, or the guy that NYPD frog-marched out of Yankee Stadium and threatened to 'punch in the face' for tyring to go the bathroon during the 7th inning stretch, because "God Bless America" was playing.
Bottom line: In any situation where you know that X is offensive to some people, you can:
1) Avoid X in situations where you can expect it to cause offence 2) Do X and consciously accept that some people may be offended and you can't control that.
It's that simple. Whether you choose 1 or 2 depends on whether you care if the people in question are offended or not. It may be perfectly valid to pursue option 2 (as with the lime issue) but don't act surprised by some peoples' reaction since you made a conscious decision to take that risk (presumably for good reason). FULL STOP.
Let's not forget that conservatives have their own political correctness witch-hunts too - ask Ellen Degeneris, Bill Maher, or the guy that NYPD frog-marched out of Yankee Stadium and threatened to 'punch in the face' for tyring to go the bathroon during the 7th inning stretch, because "God Bless America" was playing.
It's got nothing on the insidiousness of left wing PC garbage. IN Britain just recently, two young people were charged with "pork fatting" a mosque and sentenced to time behind bars for it. Meanwhile Islamic trash continues to assault, threaten and intimidate people in Britain and nobody does shit about it.
We had a Catholic priest that was brought before the CHRC and raked over the coals for denouncing Islam. Yet there was zero lefty outrage at the imam in the GTA who denounced Canada, Canadians and Western society in general. NO CHRC hearings, no public shaming. Just a bunch of PC retards who excused his actions by claiming he has the right to free speech.
PC at it's worst. 'Kaffir' also referred to a person who understood and rejected teachings of the Qu'ran. But I notice that definition isn't included.
I agree that it seems to be much ado about nothing, but what would you say if it were called a "Nigger Lime?"
I would never call anything that. The problem with Political Correctness is that a term may mean one thing in one culture, and another somewhere else. 'Kaffir' in South Asia is not the same as it is in South Africa; but 'Nigger' is the same pretty much everywhere.
It's part of the PC philosophy to intentionally misrepresent things in order to get people to feel guilty about themselves and turn to the PC way of thinking. I choose not to comply, because I know my own intentions.
I love Kaffir Lime leaf chicken curry, and Kaffir Lime leaf in a Brazilian seafood stew, and in fish cakes, and in many other things and not once do I mean it as a disparaging comment toward any minority. Anyone who implies that I do can go fuck them self.
It's part of the PC philosophy to intentionally misrepresent things
I don't think that's an accurate statement - especially the "intentionally misrepresent" part.
because I know my own intentions
I think some main points of the "PC way of thinking" are that
1) a person's intentions are not always obvious
2) a person's intentions are not always relevant, i.e. if you know certain words or actions offend people and you consciously choose to use those words in front of those people anyway, it's really the conscious choice to lack consideration rather than the word/action itself. For example, I tend to curse like a pirate, but not around my parents-in-law because they are very Catholic and find it highly offensive. Whether or not I mean to offend doesn't matter - they'e made their feelings on the topic clear and I don't really need to curse in front of them...if I decide to continue swearing infront of them, I am in effect, intending to offend.
because I know my own intentions
I think some main points of the "PC way of thinking" are that
1) a person's intentions are not always obvious
2) a person's intentions are not always relevant, i.e. if you know certain words or actions offend people and you consciously choose to use those words in front of those people anyway, it's really the conscious choice to lack consideration rather than the word/action itself. For example, I tend to curse like a pirate, but not around my parents-in-law because they are very Catholic and find it highly offensive. Whether or not I mean to offend doesn't matter - they'e made their feelings on the topic clear and I don't really need to curse in front of them...if I decide to continue swearing infront of them, I am in effect, intending to offend.
The Politically Correct crowd have the audacity to tell me that:
1) I don't know what I know, and that;
2) I don't mean what I say.
A person's intentions are always relevant - I never intentionally try to insult or offend anyone {that hasn't tried that on me first, then the gloves are off}. But if I do happen to offend or insult someone unintentionally; there is no constitutional right to not be offended! Put on the big girl skirt and move on! What offends me in when they try to tell me what I should say or should think or should do, because something might possibly offend someone when no one has voiced offense at anything!
As Ghandi defined it, it's 'violence' to try to coerce someone to do or say or think something they do not want to; to inflict your will on another.
Are there huge anti-Lime leaf demonstrations in Pretoria? No! No one cares! Just like no one cares that our local CFL club is named 'Eskimos' but yet it might be offensive because one person in our city of over a million thinks it could be offensive, but yet the 'Canucks' of Vancouver is perfectly acceptable when 'Canuck' used to be an offensive term like 'Yankee'. That one person (who is not Innu) needs to put on the big boy pants and see that his opinion in in the extreme minority - not that everyone needs to come around to his way of thinking.
I agree that it seems to be much ado about nothing, but what would you say if it were called a "Nigger Lime?"
Depends. If it is called Negar Lime it could be a harmless brand name from Iran.
The Politically Correct crowd have the audacity to tell me that:
1) I don't know what I know, and that;
2) I don't mean what I say.
No, not at all. The point is that OTHER PEOPLE don't know what you know or what you mean.
The point here is that you can't control what offends other people, just as they can't control what offends you. Just as there is no constitutional right to not be offended, there is no constitutional right to force someone to not be offended.
Bottom line: In any situation where you know that X is offensive to some people, you can:
1) Avoid X in situations where you can expect it to cause offence
2) Do X and consciously accept that some people may be offended and you can't control that.
It's that simple. Whether you choose 1 or 2 depends on whether you care if the people in question are offended or not. It may be perfectly valid to pursue option 2 (as with the lime issue) but don't act surprised by some peoples' reaction since you made a conscious decision to take that risk (presumably for good reason). FULL STOP.
A person's intentions are always relevant
No, in one of the recent wrinkles of PC tyranny your intentions are irrelevant. All that matters is the perception of the 'victim'.
That means if you say "Good morning" to someone they can elect to interpret that as racist, sexist, ageist, homophobic, or etc. and then you are supposed to plead guilty and then attend whatever the hell indoctrination course you're ordered to attend or else be fired.
My personal favorite paradox in Federal law on sexual harassment is that a victim can claim retaliation if the accused avoids contact with the accuser *and* if the accused avoid contact with the accuser.
That means if you say "Good morning" to someone they can elect to interpret that as racist, sexist, ageist, homophobic, or etc. and then you are supposed to plead guilty and then attend whatever the hell indoctrination course you're ordered to attend or else be fired.
And if not, be sure you will get a crowd of crazy folks with posters under your home and office windows.
Bottom line: In any situation where you know that X is offensive to some people, you can:
1) Avoid X in situations where you can expect it to cause offence
2) Do X and consciously accept that some people may be offended and you can't control that.
It's that simple. Whether you choose 1 or 2 depends on whether you care if the people in question are offended or not. It may be perfectly valid to pursue option 2 (as with the lime issue) but don't act surprised by some peoples' reaction since you made a conscious decision to take that risk (presumably for good reason). FULL STOP.
Let's not forget that conservatives have their own political correctness witch-hunts too - ask Ellen Degeneris, Bill Maher, or the guy that NYPD frog-marched out of Yankee Stadium and threatened to 'punch in the face' for tyring to go the bathroon during the 7th inning stretch, because "God Bless America" was playing.
I stand by my earlier post.
Bottom line: In any situation where you know that X is offensive to some people, you can:
1) Avoid X in situations where you can expect it to cause offence
2) Do X and consciously accept that some people may be offended and you can't control that.
It's that simple. Whether you choose 1 or 2 depends on whether you care if the people in question are offended or not. It may be perfectly valid to pursue option 2 (as with the lime issue) but don't act surprised by some peoples' reaction since you made a conscious decision to take that risk (presumably for good reason). FULL STOP.
Let's not forget that conservatives have their own political correctness witch-hunts too - ask Ellen Degeneris, Bill Maher, or the guy that NYPD frog-marched out of Yankee Stadium and threatened to 'punch in the face' for tyring to go the bathroon during the 7th inning stretch, because "God Bless America" was playing.
It's got nothing on the insidiousness of left wing PC garbage. IN Britain just recently, two young people were charged with "pork fatting" a mosque and sentenced to time behind bars for it.
Meanwhile Islamic trash continues to assault, threaten and intimidate people in Britain and nobody does shit about it.
We had a Catholic priest that was brought before the CHRC and raked over the coals for denouncing Islam. Yet there was zero lefty outrage at the imam in the GTA who denounced Canada, Canadians and Western society in general. NO CHRC hearings, no public shaming. Just a bunch of PC retards who excused his actions by claiming he has the right to free speech.
You can call a Kaffir Limey if you wish, then we can all have a good laugh.