After years of declining crime, a spike in city violenceLaw & Order | 206755 hits | Jul 12 1:53 am | Posted by: N_Fiddledog  CHICAGO (AP) � Police departments across the country that have spent years boasting about plummeting crime numbers are now scrambling to confront something many agencies have not seen in decades: more bloodshed. Houston, St. Louis, New Orleans and BaltimoCommentsview comments in forum Page 1 You need to be a member of CKA and be logged into the site, to comment on news. |
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"Career criminals with misdemeanor convictions for possession of a firearm can qualify for concealed carry permits," said Milwaukee's chief, Edward Flynn.
In Chicago, the widespread gun violence � more than 500 homicides in 2012 and more than 400 in each of the last two years � has saddled the city with the moniker "Chiraq," which is also the working title of a Spike Lee movie now being filmed.
Meanwhile, the city has suffered legal losses in its efforts to keep guns out of the hands of residents and seen its attempts to stiffen gun laws thwarted by state lawmakers.
A frustrated Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said the laws are so toothless that gang members are more worried about being beaten up by their gangs for losing a gun than going before a judge after being caught with one.
In the first quarter, police arrested 688 people for illegal firearms. By April 1, 60 percent of those people were already back on the street, McCarthy said.
you say?
So the laws are there then. They're just inadequately enforced. Perps are arrested. Then they're let go.
Chicago is famous for having the toughest gun laws in the country.
Let's put on our thinking beanies and give it some thought. Hmmm...
Well, in Chicago I know the mayor used to be Obama's chief advisor.
I wonder if we go through those listed problem cities, if we won't find some common bonds in the way they are administered and who is responsible for the administration.
Because according to the obvious conclusion reading between the lines (which is what one must do in an article from the New York Times), it's not the law it's the administration of the law that's the problem.
But wait...
you say?
So the laws are there then. They're just inadequately enforced. Perps are arrested. Then they're let go.
Chicago is famous for having the toughest gun laws in the country.
There are laws. Laws that don't keep people in jail. The laws are enforced, ie the police arrest, but because the laws are weak the judges have to let people back on the street. That's how I read it.
Toughest laws in the country doesn't mean much if the whole country has weak laws.
There are laws. Laws that don't keep people in jail. The laws are enforced, ie the police arrest, but because the laws are weak the judges have to let people back on the street. That's how I read it.
Toughest laws in the country doesn't mean much if the whole country has weak laws.
In Illinois there was a supreme court decision in 2013 allowing people to conceal/carry with certain restrictions.
However if you conceal/carry without a license, "the penalty is a class 3 felony, punishable by two to five years imprisonment, a fine of up to $25,000, or both"
That's just conceal/carry. We're going to assume there all sorts of gun restrictions in Chicago in order for it to earn it's tough gun law rep.
Didn't they also mention New York. New York, as you know, is currently being run by an admitted Socialist.
So we're talking about...
Rahh Emanuel: Chicago - Democratic Party
Bill De Blasio: New York - Democratic Party
Stephani Rawlings-Blake: Baltimore - Democratic Party
Francis G. Slay: St. Louis - Democratic Party
Annise Parker: Houston - Democratic Party
Mitch Landrieu: New Orleans - Democratic Party
I don't get what the problem is for Chicago...
Exactly where is this spike?
2008: 513
2009: 459
2010: 436
2011: 435
2012: 516
2013: 441
2014: 432
That is a puzzler isn't it. Especially when you're always reading about things like this...
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/chicag ... ce-n386411
Maybe the spike would be in shootings rather than Homicides. In fact, that's what the Huffington post claims.
Homicides Drop, But Shootings Rise As Chicago Still Struggles With Guns And Violence
The Economist claims stats have been manipulated in Chicago.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democrac ... cs-chicago
http://heyjackass.com/category/2015-chi ... der-stats/
It offers a ton of claimed crime stats for Chicago.
The stats don't contradict Ray's Wikipedia graph however they show more. They show the years during which there was that crazy rise in homicide stats and the years they tended to trend crazy high, Chicago was run by the Daleys - Richard M and Richard J - both
So no matter what we choose to believe concerning the stats and where they come from my hypothesis of a connection to political administration is consistently supported.